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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 10:29 am

Your in-game name: [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed
Rulebreaker: EK.IceFlake
Date and time of Rulebreaking: Right now
What did he do? Describe please: He muted for provoking and he was making me angry with him bad words , yes i replied to him with bad words because he made me angry

Players who witnessed the violation: none

Any links to screenshots you took as evidence:
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 10:39 am

[13:05:25] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: IceFlake Racist
[13:05:29] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :v
[13:05:35] EK.IceFlake: im not racist...
[13:05:40] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: no pure racist

[13:07:16] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: and you racist deeds not consider evil
[13:07:17] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: ?
[13:07:18] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :v

[13:07:32] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: RacistFlake
[13:07:34] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :v

[13:07:44] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: i know it
[13:07:45] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :v
[13:07:49] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: sh****

[13:07:58] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: diamond it starts with sh!
[13:08:16] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: the real name
[13:08:17] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :V
[13:08:29] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :v
[13:08:34] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: age 13 :v?

[13:09:26] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: dont cry flkae
[13:09:27] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :v

[13:09:49] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: Thakri + Sh***** = Flake
[13:09:53] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :v

[13:11:03] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: RacismFlakes

[13:11:58] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed:
RacismFlakes: Niggas must die!!!!

[13:12:14] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed:
RacismFlakes: Niggas must die!!!!

[13:12:48] EK.IceFlake: he just spreads mischief
[13:13:02] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: yes flake like your name and age right?
[13:13:03] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :V

[13:13:53] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: what do you want from one his name start with sh and his age is 24/2 ?

[13:16:30] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: Uncle Flake has a !*"# duck ea ea ou
He fucked it and said F*ck ea ea ou

[13:17:32] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: shaikh Flake watch porn
[13:17:33] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :V?
[13:17:39] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: really
[13:17:40] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :v
[13:17:59] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: how you dont watch it and you put sophiee dee's pic on your room's wall?

[13:18:33] Information: [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed killed EK.IceFlake (Stubby Shotgun) (Body)
[13:18:40] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: die racism

[13:18:49] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: The Racism in his blood
[13:18:50] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: :v

[13:19:10] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: Joker listen IceFlake isnt a good admin he just fear from his name

[13:20:50] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: IceFlake stop mastur*****
[13:21:30] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed: flake masturbate when his family is out

[13:22:31] [EK]Zeyad_Ahmed:
Information: EK.IceFlake Called sh.........


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I'm sure I don't need to justify this further. Therefore, I won't waste my time on doing so.
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Post by ЧК. Sat May 20, 2017 10:41 am

Flake if he was only annoying you, you could've used /ignore. Mute is only for those who are affecting a group of people from their words.

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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 10:43 am

4K. wrote:Flake if he was only annoying you, you could've used /ignore. Mute is only for those who are affecting a group of people from their words.
According to the provoking rule, "mute is the recommended first punishment in 0.4". Zeyad was provoking me because if I hadn't decided to be mature I would've broke some rules on him (however since I am mature I didn't).

Anyways (yes I know this isn't in the rules. what I explained above is. don't dispute on this with the rules.) Zeyad was doing it in such a way that even if I had /ignored him he would've insulted me in front of other people.
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Post by ЧК. Sat May 20, 2017 10:45 am

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
4K. wrote:Flake if he was only annoying you, you could've used /ignore. Mute is only for those who are affecting a group of people from their words.
According to the provoking rule, "mute is the recommended first punishment in 0.4". Zeyad was provoking me because if I hadn't decided to be mature I would've broke some rules on him (however since I am mature I didn't).

He was only provoking you so it would be better to cut his communication with you with /ignore, not with all players from /mute.

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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 10:46 am

he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
and his immature deeds made alot of players angry and i one of them
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 10:48 am

Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
You can give them if you want but I won't waste my time disputing on them. All my 'provokings' were actually replies to your provkings but they didn't neutralize them which is why I had to use /mute on you.

To 4K:
Yes but he wasn't doing it directly.
As in not telling me I'm "RacistFlakes" but instead telling Luckshya that I'm "RacistFlakes".
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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 10:49 am

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
You can give them if you want but I won't waste my time disputing on them. All my 'provokings' were actually replies to your provkings but they didn't neutralize them which is why I had to use /mute on you.

To 4K:
Yes but he wasn't doing it directly.
As in not telling me I'm "RacistFlakes" but instead telling Luckshya that I'm "RacistFlakes".
well dont let me sent your treats on fb?
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Post by ЧК. Sat May 20, 2017 10:50 am

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
You can give them if you want but I won't waste my time disputing on them. All my 'provokings' were actually replies to your provkings but they didn't neutralize them which is why I had to use /mute on you.

To 4K:
Yes but he wasn't doing it directly.
As in not telling me I'm "RacistFlakes" but instead telling Luckshya that I'm "RacistFlakes".

That is still just provoking you, not Lucksya.

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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 10:56 am

4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
You can give them if you want but I won't waste my time disputing on them. All my 'provokings' were actually replies to your provkings but they didn't neutralize them which is why I had to use /mute on you.

To 4K:
Yes but he wasn't doing it directly.
As in not telling me I'm "RacistFlakes" but instead telling Luckshya that I'm "RacistFlakes".

That is still just provoking you, not Lucksya.
However the thing is /ignore wouldn't help because that slander would reach Luckshya (and everyone else online) in any case.
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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 10:57 am

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
You can give them if you want but I won't waste my time disputing on them. All my 'provokings' were actually replies to your provkings but they didn't neutralize them which is why I had to use /mute on you.

To 4K:
Yes but he wasn't doing it directly.
As in not telling me I'm "RacistFlakes" but instead telling Luckshya that I'm "RacistFlakes".

That is still just provoking you, not Lucksya.
However the thing is /ignore wouldn't help because that slander would reach Luckshya (and everyone else online) in any case.
I says anything to anyone that i want will you prevent me?
man stop that immature deed
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Post by ЧК. Sat May 20, 2017 11:00 am

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
You can give them if you want but I won't waste my time disputing on them. All my 'provokings' were actually replies to your provkings but they didn't neutralize them which is why I had to use /mute on you.

To 4K:
Yes but he wasn't doing it directly.
As in not telling me I'm "RacistFlakes" but instead telling Luckshya that I'm "RacistFlakes".

That is still just provoking you, not Lucksya.
However the thing is /ignore wouldn't help because that slander would reach Luckshya (and everyone else online) in any case.

If you used /ignore then you won't be provoked anymore since you won't know if he's messaging Lucky or others. Also /ignore is a powerful command, if you used it then Zeyad won't have any benefit since his purpose was to annoy you and when you ignored him then it won't work and he'll stop. Now do we have to teach you how to solve these issues without using your admin power to take revenge?

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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 11:50 am

4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
You can give them if you want but I won't waste my time disputing on them. All my 'provokings' were actually replies to your provkings but they didn't neutralize them which is why I had to use /mute on you.

To 4K:
Yes but he wasn't doing it directly.
As in not telling me I'm "RacistFlakes" but instead telling Luckshya that I'm "RacistFlakes".

That is still just provoking you, not Lucksya.
However the thing is /ignore wouldn't help because that slander would reach Luckshya (and everyone else online) in any case.

If you used /ignore then you won't be provoked anymore since you won't know if he's messaging Lucky or others. Also /ignore is a powerful command, if you used it then Zeyad won't have any benefit since his purpose was to annoy you and when you ignored him then it won't work and he'll stop. Now do we have to teach you how to solve these issues without using your admin power to take revenge?
Zeyad's purpose was to spread slander about me, not to annoy me. He was caught backbiting slander about me a few days ago too, which shows his intent. I would've still been provoked due to the fact that slander was being spread about me.

It's not "using my admin power to take revenge", it's using my admin power to do exactly what it was meant to do: enforce the rules.
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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 12:00 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
You can give them if you want but I won't waste my time disputing on them. All my 'provokings' were actually replies to your provkings but they didn't neutralize them which is why I had to use /mute on you.

To 4K:
Yes but he wasn't doing it directly.
As in not telling me I'm "RacistFlakes" but instead telling Luckshya that I'm "RacistFlakes".

That is still just provoking you, not Lucksya.
However the thing is /ignore wouldn't help because that slander would reach Luckshya (and everyone else online) in any case.

If you used /ignore then you won't be provoked anymore since you won't know if he's messaging Lucky or others. Also /ignore is a powerful command, if you used it then Zeyad won't have any benefit since his purpose was to annoy you and when you ignored him then it won't work and he'll stop. Now do we have to teach you how to solve these issues without using your admin power to take revenge?
Zeyad's purpose was to spread slander about me, not to annoy me. He was caught backbiting slander about me a few days ago too, which shows his intent. I would've still been provoked due to the fact that slander was being spread about me.

It's not "using my admin power to take revenge", it's using my admin power to do exactly what it was meant to do: enforce the rules.
That is not a reason to mute maybe I tell any one and you cant prevent me , you ignored me then unignored after 5 seconds from my view it's a bit from your immature deeds
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 1:25 pm

Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:he is command abusing and why you only collecting my provokings where is yours?
You can give them if you want but I won't waste my time disputing on them. All my 'provokings' were actually replies to your provkings but they didn't neutralize them which is why I had to use /mute on you.

To 4K:
Yes but he wasn't doing it directly.
As in not telling me I'm "RacistFlakes" but instead telling Luckshya that I'm "RacistFlakes".

That is still just provoking you, not Lucksya.
However the thing is /ignore wouldn't help because that slander would reach Luckshya (and everyone else online) in any case.

If you used /ignore then you won't be provoked anymore since you won't know if he's messaging Lucky or others. Also /ignore is a powerful command, if you used it then Zeyad won't have any benefit since his purpose was to annoy you and when you ignored him then it won't work and he'll stop. Now do we have to teach you how to solve these issues without using your admin power to take revenge?
Zeyad's purpose was to spread slander about me, not to annoy me. He was caught backbiting slander about me a few days ago too, which shows his intent. I would've still been provoked due to the fact that slander was being spread about me.

It's not "using my admin power to take revenge", it's using my admin power to do exactly what it was meant to do: enforce the rules.
That is not a reason to mute maybe I tell any one and you cant prevent me , you ignored me then unignored after 5 seconds from my view it's a bit from your immature deeds
Why can't I prevent you? You're breaking the rules and it's my right to not have any rules broken against me.
I unignored you because I figured out that you would continue to talk about me and I wouldn't even know what you were talking.
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 1:27 pm

Someone post their decision so we can either move this to the Court or deny it...
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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 1:45 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Someone post their decision so we can either move this to the Court or deny it...
yea we move it to the court and who judge? YOU!!?
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 1:51 pm

Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Someone post their decision so we can either move this to the Court or deny it...
yea we move it to the court and who judge? YOU!!?
No one asked you for your useless remark.
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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 2:02 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Someone post their decision so we can either move this to the Court or deny it...
yea we move it to the court and who judge? YOU!!?
No one asked you for your useless remark.
I want an admin with 6+ level to solve that man , not your court !
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Post by ЧК. Sat May 20, 2017 2:13 pm

I've already stated my opinion, but since Flake is my senior I'll let Angel handle it. Flake if it goes to court then I'll be the prosecutor. Razz

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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 2:29 pm

here is the prove that he started first
as you can see
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 2:36 pm

Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Someone post their decision so we can either move this to the Court or deny it...
yea we move it to the court and who judge? YOU!!?
No one asked you for your useless remark.
I want  an admin with 6+ level to solve that man , not your court !
Couldn't care less what you want.
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:here is the prove that he started first
as you can see
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That's not provoking.
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Post by ЧК. Sat May 20, 2017 2:42 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Someone post their decision so we can either move this to the Court or deny it...
yea we move it to the court and who judge? YOU!!?
No one asked you for your useless remark.
I want  an admin with 6+ level to solve that man , not your court !
Couldn't care less what you want.
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:here is the prove that he started first
as you can see
[Closed] Admin Report - IceFlake Unknown
That's not provoking.

Just like the old insulting rule, the provoking rule is also vague and anyone can say he got provoked to support his stance in the case.

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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 2:56 pm

4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Someone post their decision so we can either move this to the Court or deny it...
yea we move it to the court and who judge? YOU!!?
No one asked you for your useless remark.
I want  an admin with 6+ level to solve that man , not your court !
Couldn't care less what you want.
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:here is the prove that he started first
as you can see
[Closed] Admin Report - IceFlake Unknown
That's not provoking.

Just like the old insulting rule, the provoking rule is also vague and anyone can say he got provoked to support his stance in the case.
But luckily the provoking rule hasn't been updated as such.
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Post by ЧК. Sat May 20, 2017 3:13 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
4K. wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Someone post their decision so we can either move this to the Court or deny it...
yea we move it to the court and who judge? YOU!!?
No one asked you for your useless remark.
I want  an admin with 6+ level to solve that man , not your court !
Couldn't care less what you want.
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:here is the prove that he started first
as you can see
[Closed] Admin Report - IceFlake Unknown
That's not provoking.

Just like the old insulting rule, the provoking rule is also vague and anyone can say he got provoked to support his stance in the case.
But luckily the provoking rule hasn't been updated as such.

We're not robots to follow rules blindly, your reply shows that even you think it should be updated. And the welcome message you gave to Zeyad might be mild, but still is potentiality provoking which provoked him to provoke you.

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Post by SuFyastiC Sat May 20, 2017 3:40 pm

Flake you are an Admin your act of immaturity, ended up with you out-bursting n mis-using an Admin cmd, thou what Zeyad did isn't favorable, but he was just tryin to reach ur mentality n at a certain point he did n you just could not handle it. A warn to both of you can be the final Punishment, because you both neither harmed each other nor the server except that /mute from Icy.

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VK.SuFy wrote:Flake you are an Admin your act of immaturity, ended up with you out-bursting n mis-using an Admin cmd, thou what Zeyad did isn't favorable, but he was just tryin to reach ur mentality n at a certain point he did n you just could not handle it. A warn to both of you can be the final warn, because you both neither harmed each other nor the server expect that /mute from Icy.

I rest my case, My Lord! AngelinA :*
1. That was not an act of immaturity.
2. That was not a misuse of an administrative command; rather, it was the exact purpose administrative commands were meant to serve: to enforce the rules.
3. What? I don't understand that statement and thus can't dispute it.
4. Enforcing the rules does not lead to a warn.
5. You are not allowed to rest your case because you are not an administrator.
6. For the same reason as above, you are not supposed to reply to this thread.
7. This thread may soon get locked until someone (Angle and Andriusas are the only ones that can do this) passes their decision, I either accept it if it is to deny the report or I object and pass this to the court if the decision is anything otherwise because it is attracting a lot of dispution which is supposed to happen in the court, not the report.
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Post by ЧК. Sat May 20, 2017 5:01 pm

@VK.Angel.OfDeath

Please deal with the report.

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Post by Chuck Norris Sat May 20, 2017 7:09 pm

This is exactly why you shouldn't punish someone who is abusing/provoking you, you should report it instead, so an outsider who is not involved can make a fair decision. If you feel provoked and abused, you're not going to make the best decision.

What rule did you break IceFlake? The provoking rule only applies if you:

1. Commit Another rule break.
2. The rule break is directly tied to the provoking of yourself.
3. You aren't breaking any rule just to be able to punish him provoking.

A good management member, doesn't get reported. Being reported is a failure. Making something personal is also a failure. I suggest for the future that you report anyone who is abusing you instead of taking things into your own hand.´There will Always be people who are going to say: In VKs the management members just ban/silence people that talks bad about them bla bla. That's not good for us...

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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 7:24 pm

Chuck Norris wrote:This is exactly why you shouldn't punish someone who is abusing/provoking you, you should report it instead, so an outsider who is not involved can make a fair decision. If you feel provoked and abused, you're not going to make the best decision.

What rule did you break IceFlake? The provoking rule only applies if you:

1. Commit Another rule break.
2. The rule break is directly tied to the provoking of yourself.
3. You aren't breaking any rule just to be able to punish him provoking.

A good management member, doesn't get reported. Being reported is a failure. Making something personal is also a failure. I suggest for the future that you report anyone who is abusing you instead of taking things into your own hand.´There will Always be people who are going to say: In VKs the management members just ban/silence people that talks bad about them bla bla. That's not good for us...

Yeah but you need to implement this in order for this to be practically accepted.

I read the provoking rule to make sure this doesn't happen, because you don't actually have to break the rule, just have the other person provoke you to break it. Also, even if we consider this void, that means I broke a rule by using /mute (which I didn't). This means that Zeyad not only did provoke me into breaking it, but was successful too. However, the provoking rule doesn't require success while provoking, only to provoke.

Anyone can get reported by someone who has an account on the forum mostly due to personal reasons like this one where Zeyad didn't like me so he decided to make a report against me. This goes to prove that being reported isn't a failure.

Anyone who says that is very biased to their liking, because the rules are meant to be enforced by every admin regardless of who they were broken against. If they don't enforce a rule when it is broken against a specific person, it means that that admin is biased.
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Post by Chuck Norris Sat May 20, 2017 7:29 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Chuck Norris wrote:This is exactly why you shouldn't punish someone who is abusing/provoking you, you should report it instead, so an outsider who is not involved can make a fair decision. If you feel provoked and abused, you're not going to make the best decision.

What rule did you break IceFlake? The provoking rule only applies if you:

1. Commit Another rule break.
2. The rule break is directly tied to the provoking of yourself.
3. You aren't breaking any rule just to be able to punish him provoking.

A good management member, doesn't get reported. Being reported is a failure. Making something personal is also a failure. I suggest for the future that you report anyone who is abusing you instead of taking things into your own hand.´There will Always be people who are going to say: In VKs the management members just ban/silence people that talks bad about them bla bla. That's not good for us...

Yeah but you need to implement this in order for this to be practically accepted.

I read the provoking rule to make sure this doesn't happen, because you don't actually have to break the rule, just have the other person provoke you to break it. Also, even if we consider this void, that means I broke a rule by using /mute (which I didn't). This means that Zeyad not only did provoke me into breaking it, but was successful too. However, the provoking rule doesn't require success while provoking, only to provoke.

Anyone can get reported by someone who has an account on the forum mostly due to personal reasons like this one where Zeyad didn't like me so he decided to make a report against me. This goes to prove that being reported isn't a failure.

Anyone who says that is very biased to their liking, because the rules are meant to be enforced by every admin regardless of who they were broken against. If they don't enforce a rule when it is broken against a specific person, it means that that admin is biased.

Read the provoking rule. It says he has to provoke you into breaking the rules. Admin rules are technically not on the server rules, so therefor doesn't Count. if someone abuses an admin command they get demoted, not banned. I am going to open a management topic about this.

Also explain why I don't get reported? Wanna know why? Because if someone abuses the shit out of me, they are doing it to get a reaction out of me and bring down the server reputation by claiming that the owner punished someone because of personal reasons.
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 8:17 pm

Chuck Norris wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Chuck Norris wrote:This is exactly why you shouldn't punish someone who is abusing/provoking you, you should report it instead, so an outsider who is not involved can make a fair decision. If you feel provoked and abused, you're not going to make the best decision.

What rule did you break IceFlake? The provoking rule only applies if you:

1. Commit Another rule break.
2. The rule break is directly tied to the provoking of yourself.
3. You aren't breaking any rule just to be able to punish him provoking.

A good management member, doesn't get reported. Being reported is a failure. Making something personal is also a failure. I suggest for the future that you report anyone who is abusing you instead of taking things into your own hand.´There will Always be people who are going to say: In VKs the management members just ban/silence people that talks bad about them bla bla. That's not good for us...

Yeah but you need to implement this in order for this to be practically accepted.

I read the provoking rule to make sure this doesn't happen, because you don't actually have to break the rule, just have the other person provoke you to break it. Also, even if we consider this void, that means I broke a rule by using /mute (which I didn't). This means that Zeyad not only did provoke me into breaking it, but was successful too. However, the provoking rule doesn't require success while provoking, only to provoke.

Anyone can get reported by someone who has an account on the forum mostly due to personal reasons like this one where Zeyad didn't like me so he decided to make a report against me. This goes to prove that being reported isn't a failure.

Anyone who says that is very biased to their liking, because the rules are meant to be enforced by every admin regardless of who they were broken against. If they don't enforce a rule when it is broken against a specific person, it means that that admin is biased.

Read the provoking rule. It says he has to provoke you into breaking the rules. Admin rules are technically not on the server rules, so therefor doesn't Count. if someone abuses an admin command they get demoted, not banned. I am going to open a management topic about this.

Also explain why I don't get reported? Wanna know why? Because if someone abuses the shit out of me, they are doing it to get a reaction out of me and bring down the server reputation by claiming that the owner punished someone because of personal reasons.
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If a command that is level 2 or higher is not listed here it means that these basic rules apply to the command:


If your command forces innocent players to interrupt whatever they are doing, it has to be for the purpose of making their gameplay more fun. You also have to make sure no one is getting annoyed by it. This rule does not apply if the player is breaking the rules.
You're not to allowed to use your command to get an advantage in combat.
If your command has an effect on the server that is negatively affecting the player's gameplay, you have to remove the effect immediately.
It is forbidden to use your command for the purpose of killing or punishing anyone unless they are breaking the rules.
If any high-level admin tells you not to use your command, you have to obey them and report them if they are breaking the rules.

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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 8:45 pm

Well flake i will send my evidance about your threats and IMMATURE deeds
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sat May 20, 2017 8:48 pm

Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:Well flake i will send my evidance about your threats and IMMATURE deeds
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You do know that we couldn't care less about what goes on in FB for the purposes of this report, right?
And your actions further prove how immature you are and how you're trying to provoke me. It's simply so fking clear, making "IMMATURE" uppercased, bold and underlined. I could provoke you and be an idiot like you and fuck your reputation for the rest of your life with relative ease yet I won't because unlike you, I'm actually mature.
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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 8:51 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:Well flake i will send my evidance about your threats and IMMATURE deeds
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You do know that we couldn't care less about what goes on in FB for the purposes of this report, right?
And your actions further prove how immature you are and how you're trying to provoke me. It's simply so fking clear, making "IMMATURE" uppercased, bold and underlined. I could provoke you and be an idiot like you and F*ck your reputation for the rest of your life with relative ease yet I won't because unlike you, I'm actually mature.
hahaha funny [I could provoke you and be an idiot like you and F*ck your reputation for the rest of your life]
Flake only bla bla bla he will make a conspiracy theory from a upercased and underline word
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Post by Chuck Norris Sat May 20, 2017 9:50 pm

I will declare this report as closed in 1-7 Days unless CrystalBlue or Zeyad requests me to keep it open for further discussions. We're right now in the process of voting for a rule that disallows one admin to punish someone for insulting and provoking them. I think it's better for that admin to make a report. I feel like this rule is similar to how you can't deny an admin report that is made against yourself.
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Post by Zurix Sat May 20, 2017 9:59 pm

I request you to make it open!
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Post by Chuck Norris Sat May 20, 2017 10:33 pm

Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:I request you to make it open!

Ok I'll keep it open until you guys are done discussing. But as I said you can't expect anything more than a rule update.
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Post by Vipe[R] Sun May 21, 2017 7:08 am

Sorry for posting here but, flake shall be demoted he was using censored by Flake - any subsequent attempts to uncensor this will lead to your message being deleted. This contained confidential information. and was trying to get me banned with no reason you saw my report? right? he didn't post real logs coz i didn't spam he want's me banned without a reason same with zeyad.


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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sun May 21, 2017 7:15 am

Vipe[R] wrote:Sorry for posting here but, flake shall be demoted he was using censored by Flake and was trying to get me banned with no reason you saw my report? right? he didn't post real logs coz i didn't spam he want's me banned without a reason same with zeyad.
A sorry doesn't give you the right to post here.
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Post by Diamond Sun May 21, 2017 7:25 am

Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:Well flake i will send my evidance about your threats and IMMATURE deeds
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Sorry for being involved here.
But IceFlake is never proved immature by the pics you gave above, instead you've been caught doing an immature act and such a silly act by blackmailing him of sharing his personal info and I can see how many times you provoked him to use his admin cmds by exploiting his privacy, its not that you just blackmailed as per the Flake's messages it seems like you leaked it to other ppl here.
Flake doesnt even shares his gender, how could he let his privacy be leaked. Fking cant you respect that, Zeyad?
I never expected this silly act from you and how you were constantly provoking him and even if he ignored you and what if you could've leaked it to all the members, thats why I think Flake unignored you to keep an eye.
Zeyad, this is the internet world and he wants to hide his personal issues and keep his life away from internet, there are so many crimes occuring these days on internet and he is enough smart to prevent those and you should respect that. You were insulting him so badly that you just disturbed other memebers by constant blackmails and insults. Since it was about his privacy and Zeyad disturbed everyone by those long msgs, I think it was necessary to mute him as to keep the chat clean and maintain peace in server and peace among players.
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Post by Mike Sun May 21, 2017 7:35 am

Vipe[R] wrote:Sorry for posting here but, flake shall be demoted he was using censored by Flake and was trying to get me banned with no reason you saw my report? right? he didn't post real logs coz i didn't spam he want's me banned without a reason same with zeyad.
Sorry Staff but '' Everybody knows Viper is a Abuser Professional so we not suprise if oneday u get perma - banned by Flake or anyone'' so u can quite for now ''Abuser'' Very Happy
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p/s: Banned me if u saw this is spam Razz
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sun May 21, 2017 7:52 am

Diamond wrote:...
Before someone claims I am biased, according to the rules, this post is allowed because it is about the report. However, I can't find that rule anywhere so you'll have to do with the source.

=EK=5K. wrote:
Vipe[R] wrote:Sorry for posting here but, flake shall be demoted he was using censored by Flake and was trying to get me banned with no reason you saw my report? right? he didn't post real logs coz i didn't spam he want's me banned without a reason same with zeyad.
Sorry Staff but '' Everybody knows Viper is a Abuser Professional so we not suprise if oneday u get perma - banned by Flake or anyone'' so u can quite for now ''Abuser'' Very Happy
#abuseallcountryintheworld
#trytosorrybutnooneaccept
p/s: Banned me if u saw this is spam Razz
However, since this is a reply to Vipe[R] whose original post was counted as an illegitimate reply to an administrative topic as it did not have anything to do with the report at all, this post is not allowed.
Also, this post is for some reason impossible to understand.
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Post by ЧК. Sun May 21, 2017 8:13 am

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Vipe[R] wrote:Sorry for posting here but, flake shall be demoted he was using censored by Flake and was trying to get me banned with no reason you saw my report? right? he didn't post real logs coz i didn't spam he want's me banned without a reason same with zeyad.
A sorry doesn't give you the right to post here.

Must admit, that reply made me laugh xddd

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Post by Zurix Sun May 21, 2017 10:12 am

Diamond wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:Well flake i will send my evidance about your threats and IMMATURE deeds
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Sorry for being involved here.
But IceFlake is never proved immature by the pics you gave above, instead you've been caught doing an immature act and such a silly act by blackmailing him of sharing his personal info and I can see how many times you provoked him to use his admin cmds by exploiting his privacy, its not that you just blackmailed as per the Flake's messages it seems like you leaked it to other ppl here.
Flake doesnt even shares his gender, how could he let his privacy be leaked. Fking cant you respect that, Zeyad?
I never expected this silly act from you and how you were constantly provoking him and even if he ignored you and what if you could've leaked it to all the members, thats why I think Flake unignored you to keep an eye.
Zeyad, this is the internet world and he wants to hide his personal issues and keep his life away from internet, there are so many crimes occuring these days on internet and he is enough smart to prevent those and you should respect that. You were insulting him so badly that you just disturbed other memebers by constant blackmails and insults. Since it was about his privacy and Zeyad disturbed everyone by those long msgs, I think it was necessary to mute him as to keep the chat clean and maintain peace in server and peace among players.
well i have the right to tell any one what i want but if he got angry from my provoking why he didnt respect me first and he can use /ignore
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Post by azbeeeeee Sun May 21, 2017 10:43 am

admins dont give a F*ck that zeyad spread your infromation on fb or whatever all that matters that you should have used /ignore instead of /mute
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sun May 21, 2017 10:54 am

Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:
Diamond wrote:
Zeyad_Ahmed wrote:Well flake i will send my evidance about your threats and IMMATURE deeds
from FB
[Closed] Admin Report - IceFlake 18578805_1208059659322495_1596781981_n
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[Closed] Admin Report - IceFlake 18360835_1196783490450112_2123316048_n
Sorry for being involved here.
But IceFlake is never proved immature by the pics you gave above, instead you've been caught doing an immature act and such a silly act by blackmailing him of sharing his personal info and I can see how many times you provoked him to use his admin cmds by exploiting his privacy, its not that you just blackmailed as per the Flake's messages it seems like you leaked it to other ppl here.
Flake doesnt even shares his gender, how could he let his privacy be leaked. Fking cant you respect that, Zeyad?
I never expected this silly act from you and how you were constantly provoking him and even if he ignored you and what if you could've leaked it to all the members, thats why I think Flake unignored you to keep an eye.
Zeyad, this is the internet world and he wants to hide his personal issues and keep his life away from internet, there are so many crimes occuring these days on internet and he is enough smart to prevent those and you should respect that. You were insulting him so badly that you just disturbed other memebers by constant blackmails and insults. Since it was about his privacy and Zeyad disturbed everyone by those long msgs, I think it was necessary to mute him as to keep the chat clean and maintain peace in server and peace among players.
well i have the right to tell any one what i want but if he got angry from my provoking why he didnt respect me first and he can use /ignore
You don't have the right to tell anyone what you want if it is about someone else.

Anyways, not going to post any more replies to Zeyad because I'm fucking tired of this idiot's arrogance and am not going to let such idiots waste my time.
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Post by ЧК. Sun May 21, 2017 10:57 am

BigBossSnake wrote:admins dont give a F*ck that zeyad spread your infromation on fb or whatever all that matters that you should have used /ignore instead of /mute

I agree with azbee, admin commands are not their to protects someone's personal information or punish someone who leaked it.

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Post by Zurix Sun May 21, 2017 10:59 am

4K. wrote:
BigBossSnake wrote:admins dont give a F*ck that zeyad spread your infromation on fb or whatever all that matters that you should have used /ignore instead of /mute

I agree with azbee, admin commands are not their to protects someone's personal information or punish someone who leaked it.
I agree with 4k and azbee too , i think there must be a punishment for them
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Sun May 21, 2017 11:16 am

4K. wrote:
BigBossSnake wrote:admins dont give a F*ck that zeyad spread your infromation on fb or whatever all that matters that you should have used /ignore instead of /mute

I agree with azbee, admin commands are not their to protects someone's personal information or punish someone who leaked it.
Admin commands are to enforce the rules and this is what they were used for here.


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