[Denied] Lottery Ticket!!

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:There are plenty of ways to get cash in VKs:

- Minigames (Shooting range, taxi)
- jobs (lumberjack, garbage man)
- Daily challenges
- DMing
- Asking Stylish for cash.

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

1. Sorry I thought the b was a typo.

2. Your ingame life also has a life as you waste few secs to respawn and you add to your deaths and clan deaths.

3. Yes, gambling can be done with many things. I think you mean 'can'.

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

1. Sorry I thought the b was a typo.

2. Your ingame life also has a life as you waste few secs to respawn and you add to your deaths and clan deaths.

3. Yes, gambling can be done with many things. I think you mean 'can'.

1. Ok
2. Well adding to deaths and clan deaths isn't anything to render it as a life. Also, with that logic, you can't yawn because it wastes a few seconds.
3. No, I do mean can't. Can't in this context means it's haram to do so.

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

1. Sorry I thought the b was a typo.

2. Your ingame life also has a life as you waste few secs to respawn and you add to your deaths and clan deaths.

3. Yes, gambling can be done with many things. I think you mean 'can'.

1. Ok
2. Well adding to deaths and clan deaths isn't anything to render it as a life. Also, with that logic, you can't yawn because it wastes a few seconds.
3. No, I do mean can't. Can't in this context means it's haram to do so.

1. kek
2. Still game money has value in game life, not in real life.
3. Okay, understand it now.

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

1. Sorry I thought the b was a typo.

2. Your ingame life also has a life as you waste few secs to respawn and you add to your deaths and clan deaths.

3. Yes, gambling can be done with many things. I think you mean 'can'.

1. Ok
2. Well adding to deaths and clan deaths isn't anything to render it as a life. Also, with that logic, you can't yawn because it wastes a few seconds.
3. No, I do mean can't. Can't in this context means it's haram to do so.

1. kek
2. Still game money has value in game life, not in real life.
3. Okay, understand it now.

1. kek
2. Whether it has value or not, you still can't gamble it because you can't gamble anything.
3. Good

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

1. Sorry I thought the b was a typo.

2. Your ingame life also has a life as you waste few secs to respawn and you add to your deaths and clan deaths.

3. Yes, gambling can be done with many things. I think you mean 'can'.

1. Ok
2. Well adding to deaths and clan deaths isn't anything to render it as a life. Also, with that logic, you can't yawn because it wastes a few seconds.
3. No, I do mean can't. Can't in this context means it's haram to do so.

1. kek
2. Still game money has value in game life, not in real life.
3. Okay, understand it now.

1. kek
2. Whether it has value or not, you still can't gamble it because you can't gamble anything.
3. Good

You can only gamble something that has value such as you gamble your car, house, etc.

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

1. Sorry I thought the b was a typo.

2. Your ingame life also has a life as you waste few secs to respawn and you add to your deaths and clan deaths.

3. Yes, gambling can be done with many things. I think you mean 'can'.

1. Ok
2. Well adding to deaths and clan deaths isn't anything to render it as a life. Also, with that logic, you can't yawn because it wastes a few seconds.
3. No, I do mean can't. Can't in this context means it's haram to do so.

1. kek
2. Still game money has value in game life, not in real life.
3. Okay, understand it now.

1. kek
2. Whether it has value or not, you still can't gamble it because you can't gamble anything.
3. Good

You can only gamble something that has value such as you gamble your car, house, etc.

Any hadeeth or ayah on that?

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

1. Sorry I thought the b was a typo.

2. Your ingame life also has a life as you waste few secs to respawn and you add to your deaths and clan deaths.

3. Yes, gambling can be done with many things. I think you mean 'can'.

1. Ok
2. Well adding to deaths and clan deaths isn't anything to render it as a life. Also, with that logic, you can't yawn because it wastes a few seconds.
3. No, I do mean can't. Can't in this context means it's haram to do so.

1. kek
2. Still game money has value in game life, not in real life.
3. Okay, understand it now.

1. kek
2. Whether it has value or not, you still can't gamble it because you can't gamble anything.
3. Good

You can only gamble something that has value such as you gamble your car, house, etc.

Any hadeeth or ayah on that?

Any proof that you can't gamble in games?

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

1. Sorry I thought the b was a typo.

2. Your ingame life also has a life as you waste few secs to respawn and you add to your deaths and clan deaths.

3. Yes, gambling can be done with many things. I think you mean 'can'.

1. Ok
2. Well adding to deaths and clan deaths isn't anything to render it as a life. Also, with that logic, you can't yawn because it wastes a few seconds.
3. No, I do mean can't. Can't in this context means it's haram to do so.

1. kek
2. Still game money has value in game life, not in real life.
3. Okay, understand it now.

1. kek
2. Whether it has value or not, you still can't gamble it because you can't gamble anything.
3. Good

You can only gamble something that has value such as you gamble your car, house, etc.

Any hadeeth or ayah on that?

Any proof that you can't gamble in games?

They ask you about intoxicants and games of chances. Say: in both of them there is a great sin. 2:219
(games of chances == gambling)

I'm quite sure you'll now give me an ayah or a hadeeth saying that killing is haram. However, game characters don't have a life in the first place. Therefore, it's impossible to take it away from them.

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

4K. wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.

Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v

That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.

1. pay $1 to gain $1b, not $1
$1 = $1.00
$1b = $1,000,000,000
2. "it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items."
3. Gambling isn't only about money. You can't gamble anything at all.

1. Sorry I thought the b was a typo.

2. Your ingame life also has a life as you waste few secs to respawn and you add to your deaths and clan deaths.

3. Yes, gambling can be done with many things. I think you mean 'can'.

1. Ok
2. Well adding to deaths and clan deaths isn't anything to render it as a life. Also, with that logic, you can't yawn because it wastes a few seconds.
3. No, I do mean can't. Can't in this context means it's haram to do so.

1. kek
2. Still game money has value in game life, not in real life.
3. Okay, understand it now.

1. kek
2. Whether it has value or not, you still can't gamble it because you can't gamble anything.
3. Good

You can only gamble something that has value such as you gamble your car, house, etc.

Any hadeeth or ayah on that?

Any proof that you can't gamble in games?

They ask you about intoxicants and games of chances. Say: in both of them there is a great sin. 2:219
(games of chances == gambling)

I'm quite sure you'll now give me an ayah or a hadeeth saying that killing is haram. However, game characters don't have a life in the first place. Therefore, it's impossible to take it away from them.

Na, I'm on phone, and I don't have that site in my bookmarks. If you want refer to them as characters ingame then the money isn't ours, it's technically our character's therefore it's not us who is gambling it's our character and Islam laws won't apply to him since he doesn't have a life.

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
I don't want to add a lottery system anyways.