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Post by UmaR Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:46 pm

What about lottery in the game. Many players in the game need cash to buy vehicles or properties and many want cash for duel. What about adding daily lottery?? It is give chance to everyone to get cash. I think it will be good!!
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Post by Desi Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:29 pm

There is salary , no need to add lottery
Lazy people :p go kill some noobs , complete races and job to earn money fast Very Happy
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Post by Dark Abdo Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:40 pm

There are many minigames which you can get money from it also you can get money from killing others so no need.
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Post by MAZE Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:43 pm

+1 good idea!
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Dark_Abdo wrote:There are many minigames which you can get money from it also you can get money from killing others so no need.
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4K. wrote:@Hitman_47
xD. Remember "Mera ghar" scheme.
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Hitman_47 wrote:
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xD. Remember "Mera ghar" scheme.
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Few more months. Razz
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AS DESI SAID THERE IS ALREADY A FUNCTION " Hourly Salary " :p
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Lotteries are quite haram.
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EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.

agree.
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Post by 47. Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:31 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
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Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:23 pm

There are plenty of ways to get cash in VKs:

- Minigames (Shooting range, taxi)
- jobs (lumberjack, garbage man)
- Daily challenges
- DMing
- Asking Stylish for cash.

I can add the lottery but I would need to do some math to make sure it works just like in real Life, which means that you never win Very Happy.
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Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
Why not?
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EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
Why not?

Explain haram again, I forgot.
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VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
Why not?

Explain haram again, I forgot.
Haram = prohibited
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EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
Why not?
Killing is also Haram, So get the heck out of it and leave Vcmp.
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Post by ЧК. Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:09 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
Why not?

Because you've already lost this debate before vs us.
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Post by Zephyr Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:17 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
and Killing Someone also
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Post by ЧК. Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:28 pm

Zephyr wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
and Killing Someone also

This is the exact reason he lost the debate.
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Post by Thunder_B!rd Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:37 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
lol yo ualways talk about haram
let me clear this word to you
look! skating on ice lakes in bikinis is haram which mean Ice lake is also haram and there is a difference of "F" between "flake" and "lake" and "F" means "F*ck" which is also haram so this means you are totally haram so you no talk about haram and halal :VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
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Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:39 pm

Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
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EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
Why not?
Killing is also Haram, So get the heck out of it and leave Vcmp.

He has a pretty good point man Razz. If a fake lottery in the game isn't allowed, then why is fake killing in a game allowed?

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Post by ЧК. Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:51 pm

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
Why not?
Killing is also Haram, So get the heck out of it and leave Vcmp.

He has a pretty good point man Razz. If a fake lottery in the game isn't allowed, then why is fake killing in a game allowed?


So now let's add a Casino. Very Happy
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Post by 47. Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:52 pm

4K. wrote:
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Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
Why not?
Killing is also Haram, So get the heck out of it and leave Vcmp.

He has a pretty good point man Razz. If a fake lottery in the game isn't allowed, then why is fake killing in a game allowed?


So now let's add a Casino. Very Happy
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Post by ЧК. Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:26 pm

Hitman_47 wrote:
4K. wrote:
VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:
Hitman_47 wrote:
EK.CrystalBlue wrote:Lotteries are quite haram.
Don't start this discussion again.
Why not?
Killing is also Haram, So get the heck out of it and leave Vcmp.

He has a pretty good point man Razz. If a fake lottery in the game isn't allowed, then why is fake killing in a game allowed?


So now let's add a Casino. Very Happy
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Drinks are already in server which I think Crystal has surely enjoyed secretly. Very Happy
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:38 pm

I've quite easily explained it.
Killing is taking someone's life. In VCMP, the characters do not have any life in the first place. Therefore, 'killing' in VCMP is not haram.
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Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:43 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:I've quite easily explained it.
Killing is taking someone's life. In VCMP, the characters do not have any life in the first place. Therefore, 'killing' in VCMP is not haram.

So why is a lottery system haram in VC-MP? If you don't mind me asking.
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Post by ЧК. Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:04 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:I've quite easily explained it.
Killing is taking someone's life. In VCMP, the characters do not have any life in the first place. Therefore, 'killing' in VCMP is not haram.

In VCMP you've a game life which people take from you aka kill you, so what's wrong with gambling with game money.
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Post by ЧК. Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:13 pm

Also Flake even if we agree that Lottery (even in VCMP) is haram, then you're just acting like the Saudi government who force everyone in their country whether Muslim or Non Muslim to abide by Islam and its laws.
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Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:38 pm

4K. wrote:Also Flake even if we agree that Lottery (even in VCMP) is haram, then you're just acting like the Saudi government who force everyone in their country whether Muslim or Non Muslim to abide by Islam and its laws.

I don't want to add a lottery system anyways. In VC-MP fake Money can be used to buy fake things. Those things have no value and can't be converted to real Money. That's why I (and most modern countries in the World) think it's okay to do that type of gambling. If the VC-MP Money could be converted to real Money, it would obviously not be okay.

A game is a game and real Life is real Life. In a game it's the character you're playing who is doing the killings. It's also the character you're playing that is gambling. Crystal please find an expert in islam like an old man or something and ask him if it's haram to kill people in-game. He will most certaintly say yes, because a lot of people of a certain religion have different interpretations of a text.
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Post by ЧК. Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:02 pm

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
4K. wrote:Also Flake even if we agree that Lottery (even in VCMP) is haram, then you're just acting like the Saudi government who force everyone in their country whether Muslim or Non Muslim to abide by Islam and its laws.

I don't want to add a lottery system anyways. In VC-MP fake Money can be used to buy fake things. Those things have no value and can't be converted to real Money. That's why I (and most modern countries in the World) think it's okay to do that type of gambling. If the VC-MP Money could be converted to real Money, it would obviously not be okay.

A game is a game and real Life is real Life. In a game it's the character you're playing who is doing the killings. It's also the character you're playing that is gambling. Crystal please find an expert in islam like an old man or something and ask him if it's haram to kill people in-game. He will most certaintly say yes, because a lot of people of a certain religion have different interpretations of a text.

Well, it would be fun to gamble with the money, this could help the rich get poor and the poor to get rich. The rich getting poor is a good thing because then it makes them want to earn money again. Like me, I have a lot of money so don't enjoy earning money that much, but if I lost a lot of it in gambling then I would want to earn money again.
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Post by Chuck Norris Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:11 pm

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VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
4K. wrote:Also Flake even if we agree that Lottery (even in VCMP) is haram, then you're just acting like the Saudi government who force everyone in their country whether Muslim or Non Muslim to abide by Islam and its laws.

I don't want to add a lottery system anyways. In VC-MP fake Money can be used to buy fake things. Those things have no value and can't be converted to real Money. That's why I (and most modern countries in the World) think it's okay to do that type of gambling. If the VC-MP Money could be converted to real Money, it would obviously not be okay.

A game is a game and real Life is real Life. In a game it's the character you're playing who is doing the killings. It's also the character you're playing that is gambling. Crystal please find an expert in islam like an old man or something and ask him if it's haram to kill people in-game. He will most certaintly say yes, because a lot of people of a certain religion have different interpretations of a text.

Well, it would be fun to gamble with the money, this could help the rich get poor and the poor to get rich. The rich getting poor is a good thing because then it makes them want to earn money again. Like me, I have a lot of money so don't enjoy earning money that much, but if I lost a lot of it in gambling then I would want to earn money again.

To be honest in gambling most people lose more Money statistically. If gambling would turn into a feasible way to make Money, then that would damage the balance of the server.
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Post by ЧК. Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:18 pm

Chuck Norris wrote:
4K. wrote:
VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
4K. wrote:Also Flake even if we agree that Lottery (even in VCMP) is haram, then you're just acting like the Saudi government who force everyone in their country whether Muslim or Non Muslim to abide by Islam and its laws.

I don't want to add a lottery system anyways. In VC-MP fake Money can be used to buy fake things. Those things have no value and can't be converted to real Money. That's why I (and most modern countries in the World) think it's okay to do that type of gambling. If the VC-MP Money could be converted to real Money, it would obviously not be okay.

A game is a game and real Life is real Life. In a game it's the character you're playing who is doing the killings. It's also the character you're playing that is gambling. Crystal please find an expert in islam like an old man or something and ask him if it's haram to kill people in-game. He will most certaintly say yes, because a lot of people of a certain religion have different interpretations of a text.

Well, it would be fun to gamble with the money, this could help the rich get poor and the poor to get rich. The rich getting poor is a good thing because then it makes them want to earn money again. Like me, I have a lot of money so don't enjoy earning money that much, but if I lost a lot of it in gambling then I would want to earn money again.

To be honest in gambling most people lose more Money statistically. If gambling would turn into a feasible way to make Money, then that would damage the balance of the server.

It could give them the incentive to work their way to the top of the wealth list again. It would also allow other players to make their way to the top since the rich became poor. It's a sort of a cycle, you lose money from gambling, then earn your way to the top again. And for those who can't gamble in real life (not referring to myself Razz), it would be a fun experience to try.

But I think we can forget this idea because it would be best with GUI and as you said that is Crystal's job and he would never script such a thing. xddd
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Post by Thunder_B!rd Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:58 am

if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v
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Post by Zatch Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:56 pm

You have multiple choises to gain money. Another thing is that you seem like a lazy person who want easy money without doing anything lol
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Post by EK.CrystalBlue Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:03 pm

1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.
Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v
That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.
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Post by ЧК. Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:12 pm

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:1. Game life:
A 'game life' isn't considered a life because a game character is not conscious at all. That character does not have any free will either. Therefore, that character does not have a life.
2. Game money:
Game money has value. I'm quite sure most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1b of game money. A very small value, but not inexistent. Also, even if you couldn't trade it for real life money, it still has value in the sense that you can use it to buy in-game items.
Thunder_Bird wrote:if gambling is haram then why you guys even playing GTA Vice City offline :v
That's an assumption. I haven't touched VC:SP since a long, long time except to change resolution.

"most of you will be willing to pay $1 to gain $1 of game money"

Your claim isn't solid, just an assumption.

Even if everyone is willing to do it, then gambling would be only haram ingame if the money we're using ingame was purchased using real money.
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Post by Zatch Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:47 pm

[Denied] Lottery Ticket!! 2d5
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