Driveby again [Angel]

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I've thought very hard about driveby some users are so laggy that they are unkillable and it's becoming annoying for many users. The driveby in of itself is also overpowered. The problem is that I don't want much to change, I only want it to make it harder to driveby and give more advantages to the non drivebyers to balance this and I came up with the following.

System description
- If your ping is higher than 500 or below 15 or 20 fps, you can't driveby.
- If you make 3 driveby kills in a row. You will be listed as a "drivebyer" until you make 1 kill on foot or die.
- While you're listed as a "drivebyer" /nogoto will no longer work and everyone will be able to teleport to you. /radaroff and /spectatemode will also not work.
- All vehicles you enter will have a maximum health of 600 HP when you're listed as a drivebyer until you make one kill foot. Comes back as soon as you make another driveby kill.
- /fix will not work if your car is on fire when you're listed as a drivebyer until you make one kill foot. Comes back as soon as you make another driveby kill.
- You can get rid of the effect by making a kill on foot or dying. But if you make a kill on foot and then driveby again, the effects will return until you die or until you make another kill on foot.

So basically if you want to make big spree's with driveby be ready that basically the most important server commands will not be there to help you out of any situation, but the actual gameplay will be the same.

To everyone against it who driveby: I didn't change the driveby gameplay at all just the server commands and made a reasonable limit on ping and FPS on driveby.

To everyone who is against driveby: I am considering more features below. But is this a good start to making driveby a little more reasonable?


Things that might happen
Things up for discussion.
- /drivebyban to ban laggy driveby users
- Increased time to teleport after being detected as a drivebyer, until you die or until you make a kill on foot.

CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

I agree with you +1

I agree with everything written here

LOGiC wrote:

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

I agree with you    +1

Why is this given as a suggestion here?

Don't you guys think I already know that by now since there are multiple commands that disable driveby in properties and such. CanDriveBy can be used in the /bandriveby command of course.

Agree with all things.

A question. If a player is not listed as drivebyer, his car hp will be 600 or 1000?

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

Angel uses SLC? If not then player.CanDriveby

Umar wrote:Agree with all things.

A question. If a player is not listed as drivebyer, his car hp will be 600 or 1000?

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

Angel uses SLC? If not then player.CanDriveby

Updated this in the text because I am sure someone will read just that line and misunderstand it.

600 HP only when you've made 3 driveby kills in a row AND you haven't died AND your latest kill is a driveby kill (if you make a kill on foot it gets disabled until you make another driveby kill)

everything is fine in your suggestion except your /drivebyban, LOL, I never heard of banning someone for lag loool, Why ban lagger when you have such hard system for laggers? they wont be able to driveby anyways lol so that ban thingy looks useless to me.

Thunder_Bird wrote:everything is fine in your suggestion except your /drivebyban, LOL, I never heard of banning someone for lag loool, Why ban lagger when you have such hard system for laggers? they wont be able to driveby anyways lol so that ban thingy looks useless to me.

It was in up for suggestions and you can see plenty of proof where laggers are unkillable.

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

Thunder_Bird wrote:everything is fine in your suggestion except your /drivebyban, LOL, I never heard of banning someone for lag loool, Why ban lagger when you have such hard system for laggers? they wont be able to driveby anyways lol so that ban thingy looks useless to me.

It was in up for suggestions and you can see plenty of proof where laggers are unkillable.

Yes I agree laggers are unkillable so you made some restrictions up there for it right? som im saying if there are restrictions then why is even drivebyban needed?

Thunder_Bird wrote:

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

Thunder_Bird wrote:everything is fine in your suggestion except your /drivebyban, LOL, I never heard of banning someone for lag loool, Why ban lagger when you have such hard system for laggers? they wont be able to driveby anyways lol so that ban thingy looks useless to me.

It was in up for suggestions and you can see plenty of proof where laggers are unkillable.

Yes I agree laggers are unkillable so you made some restrictions up there for it right? som im saying if there are restrictions then why is even drivebyban needed?

Unstable FPS and ping can also cause lag. Take Cris for example. His ping was around 300-500 and his fps between 45-60.

I agree for everything except for /driveyban. 15 fps should make players not be able to attack, not just drive-by (I might have misunderstood your point here).

You can also disable drive-by for custom vehicles, they're too fast and are hard to hit. I've seen this in Vicewar 7 rerun, every vehicle had drive-by disabled except for the gangs' bikes.

Noobs just disable Driveby for world 1 and enable for all other worlds. This will not effect stunter and if you to Driveby goto other world.

+1

New system is very bad. It will force us to leave this VKs server. Only 3 kills! Old VKs server was very good and it attractive many players like me because DriveBy was very good.I can't bear this system. Hope I will leave this server fast. Very bad system. Forcing to leave VKs.

[DRAGON] wrote:New system is very bad. It will force us to leave this VKs server. Only 3 kills! Old VKs server was very good and it attractive many players like me because DriveBy was very good.I can't bear this system. Hope I will leave this server fast. Very bad system. Forcing to leave VKs.

Alright Farewell See you Tomorrow

[DRAGON] wrote:New system is very bad. It will force us to leave this VKs server. Only 3 kills! Old VKs server was very good and it attractive many players like me because DriveBy was very good.I can't bear this system. Hope I will leave this server fast. Very bad system. Forcing to leave VKs.

You can clearly not read. You can make 1000 kills in driveby if you want. What I added was:

- Radaroff, nogoto and spectatemode can't be used after you make 3 driveby kills.
- You can't driveby if you have less than 15 fps /fps and/or more than 500 ping.

That's basically it and some other minor changes. I think you have not read anything lol.

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

[DRAGON] wrote:New system is very bad. It will force us to leave this VKs server. Only 3 kills! Old VKs server was very good and it attractive many players like me because DriveBy was very good.I can't bear this system. Hope I will leave this server fast. Very bad system. Forcing to leave VKs.

You can clearly not read. You can make 1000 kills in driveby if you want. What I added was:

- Radaroff, nogoto and spectatemode can't be used after you make 3 driveby kills.
- You can't driveby if you have less than 15 fps /fps and/or more than 500 ping.

That's basically it and some other minor changes. I think you have not read anything lol.

But 500 ping! What! Can't be change to 700? Or 600? Only 500??? And I only told you about DriveBy ping and radar of not working. Because I kill everybody by offing radar. Not good. Make 600 ping or remove that system. Ok radar off and /fix will not work if your car has fire.

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[DRAGON] wrote:

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

[DRAGON] wrote:New system is very bad. It will force us to leave this VKs server. Only 3 kills! Old VKs server was very good and it attractive many players like me because DriveBy was very good.I can't bear this system. Hope I will leave this server fast. Very bad system. Forcing to leave VKs.

You can clearly not read. You can make 1000 kills in driveby if you want. What I added was:

- Radaroff, nogoto and spectatemode can't be used after you make 3 driveby kills.
- You can't driveby if you have less than 15 fps /fps and/or more than 500 ping.

That's basically it and some other minor changes. I think you have not read anything lol.

But 500 ping! What! Can't be change to 700? Or 600? Only 500??? And I only told you about DriveBy ping and radar of not working. Because I kill everybody by offing radar. Not good. Make 600 ping or remove that system. Ok radar off and /fix will not work if your car has fire.

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Drive by is rare high class skill, you F*cking kids these days make it look like shit with your lag and ping, Drive by was good wgen sami used to do it. And if you cant play it fairly, you can gtfo and play super mario, You are like threatning us that if this system is added you will leave lol.

[DRAGON] wrote:

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

[DRAGON] wrote:New system is very bad. It will force us to leave this VKs server. Only 3 kills! Old VKs server was very good and it attractive many players like me because DriveBy was very good.I can't bear this system. Hope I will leave this server fast. Very bad system. Forcing to leave VKs.

You can clearly not read. You can make 1000 kills in driveby if you want. What I added was:

- Radaroff, nogoto and spectatemode can't be used after you make 3 driveby kills.
- You can't driveby if you have less than 15 fps /fps and/or more than 500 ping.

That's basically it and some other minor changes. I think you have not read anything lol.

But 500 ping! What! Can't be change to 700? Or 600? Only 500??? And I only told you about DriveBy ping and radar of not working. Because I kill everybody by offing radar. Not good. Make 600 ping or remove that system. Ok radar off and /fix will not work if your car has fire.

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Because people with over 500 ping lag too much and get too much of an advantage.

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

[DRAGON] wrote:

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

[DRAGON] wrote:New system is very bad. It will force us to leave this VKs server. Only 3 kills! Old VKs server was very good and it attractive many players like me because DriveBy was very good.I can't bear this system. Hope I will leave this server fast. Very bad system. Forcing to leave VKs.

You can clearly not read. You can make 1000 kills in driveby if you want. What I added was:

- Radaroff, nogoto and spectatemode can't be used after you make 3 driveby kills.
- You can't driveby if you have less than 15 fps /fps and/or more than 500 ping.

That's basically it and some other minor changes. I think you have not read anything lol.

But 500 ping! What! Can't be change to 700? Or 600? Only 500??? And I only told you about DriveBy ping and radar of not working. Because I kill everybody by offing radar. Not good. Make 600 ping or remove that system. Ok radar off and /fix will not work if your car has fire.

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Because people with over 500 ping lag too much and get too much of an advantage.

this noob must br a lagger drivebyer like cris. 500 ping is a very high lag

F*ck you geogeo

Umar wrote:Agree with all things.

A question. If a player is not listed as drivebyer, his car hp will be 600 or 1000?

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

Angel uses SLC? If not then player.CanDriveby

Dude, for the last time, this is nothing related to the SLC plugin, you can do this with the default Squirrel API.

Still not agree, disable driveby....

Don't remove drive by.plz angel

[FF]JACKSPARROW^ wrote:Don't remove drive by.plz angel

he wont remove it.

The ping limit should be 350 and fps limit should be 25.
Way better.

Rainbow Dash wrote:

[FF]JACKSPARROW^ wrote:Don't remove drive by.plz angel

he wont remove it.

plz dont changes in drive by

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

[DRAGON] wrote:New system is very bad. It will force us to leave this VKs server. Only 3 kills! Old VKs server was very good and it attractive many players like me because DriveBy was very good.I can't bear this system. Hope I will leave this server fast. Very bad system. Forcing to leave VKs.

You can clearly not read. You can make 1000 kills in driveby if you want. What I added was:

- Radaroff, nogoto and spectatemode can't be used after you make 3 driveby kills.

Disabling the stuntbike mode will be rather effective than this .

ShadowJacK. wrote:

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

[DRAGON] wrote:New system is very bad. It will force us to leave this VKs server. Only 3 kills! Old VKs server was very good and it attractive many players like me because DriveBy was very good.I can't bear this system. Hope I will leave this server fast. Very bad system. Forcing to leave VKs.

You can clearly not read. You can make 1000 kills in driveby if you want. What I added was:

- Radaroff, nogoto and spectatemode can't be used after you make 3 driveby kills.

Disabling the stuntbike mode will be rather effective than this .

Yeah but I just don't have one perspective. I am aware that people mostly have the DM perspective because people mainly DM here, but this would kill stunting completely and I don't want to do it. If I ever had to then a part of VK and me would die. So don't push it consider other people's perspectives too. Before you ask yes it's not possible to disable it for just a few people. The only option there is disable it for everyone or no one.

WHY /RADAROFF GODDAMN IT, NOGOTO IS FINE BUT RADAR?!?!

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:Story
I've thought very hard about driveby some users are so laggy that they are unkillable and it's becoming annoying for many users. The driveby in of itself is also overpowered. The problem is that I don't want much to change, I only want it to make it harder to driveby and give more advantages to the non drivebyers to balance this and I came up with the following.

System description
- If your ping is higher than 500 or below 15 or 20 fps, you can't driveby.
- If you make 3 driveby kills in a row. You will be listed as a "drivebyer" until you make 1 kill on foot or die.
- While you're listed as a "drivebyer" /nogoto will no longer work and everyone will be able to teleport to you. /radaroff and /spectatemode will also not work.
- All vehicles you enter will have a maximum health of 600 HP when you're listed as a drivebyer until you make one kill foot. Comes back as soon as you make another driveby kill.
- /fix will not work if your car is on fire  when you're listed as a drivebyer until you make one kill foot. Comes back as soon as you make another driveby kill.
- You can get rid of the effect by making a kill on foot or dying. But if you make a kill on foot and then driveby again, the effects will return until you die or until you make another kill on foot.

So basically if you want to make big spree's with driveby be ready that basically the most important server commands will not be there to help you out of any situation, but the actual gameplay will be the same.

To everyone against it who driveby: I didn't change the driveby gameplay at all just the server commands and made a reasonable limit on ping and FPS on driveby.

To everyone who is against driveby: I am considering more features below. But is this a good start to making driveby a little more reasonable?


Things that might happen
Things up for discussion.
- /drivebyban to ban laggy driveby users
- Increased time to teleport after being detected as a drivebyer, until you die or until you make a kill on foot.

Worst thing to be honest.

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

It's CPlayerPed that inherits CPed , btw Angel can not do any thing Only VCMP developers and client modders, Its really hard thing.
Wait, are you talking about a scripting function or in game function(coded by rockstar) xddd

Zurix wrote:

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:Story
I've thought very hard about driveby some users are so laggy that they are unkillable and it's becoming annoying for many users. The driveby in of itself is also overpowered. The problem is that I don't want much to change, I only want it to make it harder to driveby and give more advantages to the non drivebyers to balance this and I came up with the following.

System description
- If your ping is higher than 500 or below 15 or 20 fps, you can't driveby.
- If you make 3 driveby kills in a row. You will be listed as a "drivebyer" until you make 1 kill on foot or die.
- While you're listed as a "drivebyer" /nogoto will no longer work and everyone will be able to teleport to you. /radaroff and /spectatemode will also not work.
- All vehicles you enter will have a maximum health of 600 HP when you're listed as a drivebyer until you make one kill foot. Comes back as soon as you make another driveby kill.
- /fix will not work if your car is on fire  when you're listed as a drivebyer until you make one kill foot. Comes back as soon as you make another driveby kill.
- You can get rid of the effect by making a kill on foot or dying. But if you make a kill on foot and then driveby again, the effects will return until you die or until you make another kill on foot.

So basically if you want to make big spree's with driveby be ready that basically the most important server commands will not be there to help you out of any situation, but the actual gameplay will be the same.

To everyone against it who driveby: I didn't change the driveby gameplay at all just the server commands and made a reasonable limit on ping and FPS on driveby.

To everyone who is against driveby: I am considering more features below. But is this a good start to making driveby a little more reasonable?


Things that might happen
Things up for discussion.
- /drivebyban to ban laggy driveby users
- Increased time to teleport after being detected as a drivebyer, until you die or until you make a kill on foot.

Worst thing to be honest.

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

It's CPlayerPed that inherits CPed , btw Angel can not do any thing Only VCMP developers and client modders, Its really hard thing.
Wait, are you talking about a scripting function or in game function(coded by rockstar) xddd

How exactly is a few commands tweaks the worst way to solve the situation? Far worst things could've been done if I actually messed with the driveby gameplay or removed it. All that will be different for you is that you can't use /nogoto, /radaroff, /spectatemode and that /fix will not be as easy to use. Driveby users already have enough advantages and they don't those features.

Users with over 500 ping constantly or 15 fps are too overpowered and will not be allowed to use drivebys to make big sprees anymore, they'll still be allowed to use it by simply mixing up their gameplay so that the rest don't suffer from it. This is a difficult choice, but we have to set the ping and fps lag limit somewhere.

MaSoN^ wrote:I agree for everything except for /driveyban. 15 fps should make players not be able to attack, not just drive-by (I might have misunderstood your point here).

You can also disable drive-by for custom vehicles, they're too fast and are hard to hit. I've seen this in Vicewar 7 rerun, every vehicle had drive-by disabled except for the gangs' bikes.

I am also not agree with /drivebyban, and plz don't make radaroff not working.Ok nogoto will not work but plz don't do radaroff not working. I am against this/radaroff new system with DriveBy. Angel, old was good system. Whenever time spends, people's brain losses working.xD

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finally, say goodbye 100x drive-byers spreers

Its still freaking shit.

[DRAGON] wrote:

MaSoN^ wrote:I agree for everything except for /driveyban. 15 fps should make players not be able to attack, not just drive-by (I might have misunderstood your point here).

You can also disable drive-by for custom vehicles, they're too fast and are hard to hit. I've seen this in Vicewar 7 rerun, every vehicle had drive-by disabled except for the gangs' bikes.

I am also not agree with /drivebyban, and plz don't make radaroff not working.Ok nogoto will not work but plz don't do radaroff not working. I am against this/radaroff new system with DriveBy. Angel, old was good system. Whenever time spends, people's brain losses working.xD

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Update: Drivebyban was just a suggestion btw. and I don't see how disabling radaroff effect your gameplay in anyway at all. You can have it when you're not on a bike killing 100+ people.

DuKaz wrote:Its still freaking shit.

Driveby is way too overpowered and there are people who gets 100+ spree simply by the fact that they lag too much and can't get hit in a vehicle. That's why a new lag limit has to be implemented.

About the rest: try drivebying without nogoto on and radaroff. still the same thing. You guys can't keep crying over that, it just means that you get less advantages.

Also if you make 3 driveby kills in a row and then make a normal kill you will get all your abilities back... and you don't really need them when you're on a bike drivebying. I can assure you this is the best solution we could come up with.

Zurix wrote:

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

It's CPlayerPed that inherits CPed , btw Angel can not do any thing Only VCMP developers and client modders, Its really hard thing.
Wait, are you talking about a scripting function or in game function(coded by rockstar) xddd

Think before you reply something lol. Yes, the CPlayer class is what we use for class member functions such as player.CanDriveBy.

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:

Zurix wrote:

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

It's CPlayerPed that inherits CPed , btw Angel can not do any thing Only VCMP developers and client modders, Its really hard thing.
Wait, are you talking about a scripting function or in game function(coded by rockstar) xddd

Think before you reply something lol. Yes, the CPlayer class is what we use for class member functions such as player.CanDriveBy.

Makes sense, I never coded in squrriel most of my time I inject and hook Vice City

Zurix wrote:

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:

Zurix wrote:

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

It's CPlayerPed that inherits CPed , btw Angel can not do any thing Only VCMP developers and client modders, Its really hard thing.
Wait, are you talking about a scripting function or in game function(coded by rockstar) xddd

Think before you reply something lol. Yes, the CPlayer class is what we use for class member functions such as player.CanDriveBy.

Makes sense, I never coded in squrriel most of my time I inject and hook Vice City

And mostly using VB.net.

I still don't get why everyone is discussing player.CanDriveBy, I have used that in many scripts lol. (Property system being the one that first comes to mind)

Chuck Norris wrote:I still don't get why everyone is discussing player.CanDriveBy, I have used that in many scripts lol.  (Property system being the one that first comes to mind)

LOL :p

MaSoN^ wrote:

Zurix wrote:

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:

Zurix wrote:

DarkRaZoR^ wrote:CPlayer::CanDriveby
A CPlayer class member where you can toggle the drive-by status to a specific player.

It's CPlayerPed that inherits CPed , btw Angel can not do any thing Only VCMP developers and client modders, Its really hard thing.
Wait, are you talking about a scripting function or in game function(coded by rockstar) xddd

Think before you reply something lol. Yes, the CPlayer class is what we use for class member functions such as player.CanDriveBy.

Makes sense, I never coded in squrriel most of my time I inject and hook Vice City

And mostly using VB.net.

No sadly , I code in C++ when it comes to game memory hacking. I'm implementing a way to make coding GTA VC in .NET language will be availbe (like C# and VB.NET)

Why are you changing the radar?

Celestia wrote:Why are you  changing the radar?

One question does it truly change anything? You can still driveby like Before. But if you're a driveby user that makes 100+ Spree you don't need radaroff to escape your enemies when you already have so many advantages.

I will give you an example how DMing will look for someone that does the following in a spree:
- He starts of his Spree by making 10 kills on M4. His gameplay hasn't changed.
- He then makes 10 kills on driveby in a row. Changes: He can't use radaroff or nogoto (plus fix is a Little nerfed but still works) until he makes a kill on foot.
- After making 10 driveby kills he starts fighting with some noobs using stubby. Changes: After 1 kill he will be able to use /radaroff and /nogoto on again.

You guys know that hitting driveby users is much harder with VC-MP's sync. It gives you an incredible advantage over players that are a lot more skilled than you in fighting just because they are on foot and you're not. A big reason why people left is that I have not properly balanced driveby like the heli cannon and RPGA that also had a nerf.

You can keep Crying about it, but to me it's a fair balance and doesn't really affect your gameplay apart from making it slightly harder to driveby so that Everything becomes more balanced.

There are people who driveby without /radaroff and nogoto on, since it's not something that is required.

I of course also added a ping limit but once again you shouldn't really be making driveby Sprees if your ping is so high that no can ever hit you. Lagging on foot makes you hittable, but lagging on a driveby bike is something that almost makes you impossible to hit.

Chuck Norris wrote:

Celestia wrote:Why are you  changing the radar?

One question does it truly change anything?

Then why are you changing it, since it couldn't change anything?

Another thing, even me can't get a 30 spree with drive-by easily, how those newbies, who don't know /radaroff and /nogoto (experienced drive-byers will always enable their radar and nogoto), get "100 spree"?

What actually makes me feel unpleased is your word "crying" (I don't care the drive-by thing much), please fix your word and keep calm next time.

Celestia wrote:

Chuck Norris wrote:

Celestia wrote:Why are you  changing the radar?

One question does it truly change anything?

Then why are you changing it, since it couldn't change anything?

Another thing, even me can't get a 30 spree with drive-by easily, how those newbies, who don't know /radaroff and /nogoto (experienced drive-byers will always enable their radar and nogoto), get "100 spree"?

What actually makes me feel unpleased is your word "crying" (I don't care the drive-by thing much), please fix your word and keep calm next time.

Angel doing it cos my mate [RF]Cris made 150 spree on driveby.

Reduce the amount of speed of a custom vehicle to normal when it is used to drive-by.

Celestia wrote:

Chuck Norris wrote:

Celestia wrote:Why are you  changing the radar?

One question does it truly change anything?

Then why are you changing it, since it couldn't change anything?

Another thing, even me can't get a 30 spree with drive-by easily, how those newbies, who don't know /radaroff and /nogoto (experienced drive-byers will always enable their radar and nogoto), get "100 spree"?

What actually makes me feel unpleased is your word "crying" (I don't care the drive-by thing much), please fix your word and keep calm next time.

Didn't notice the name. Your argument seemed similar to most other people who don't read anything I say.

I don't have time to make sure my text is 100 % perfect I take back the crying part then since it was obviously my mistake.

It doesn't change driveby, it just changes the commands and that will in my opinion at least make it a little better for people who get targetted by people who driveby a lot.