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ReBorN wrote:Why not adding a timer To /kill and on /q if player Do this he should wait for 5 min Awesome Mind Right? Like in EC Server i a player is doing /kill is need to wait 3 minutes.

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

ReBorN wrote:Why not adding a timer To /kill and on /q if player Do this he should wait for 5 min Awesome Mind Right? Like in EC Server i a player is doing /kill is need to wait 3 minutes.

It is not an awesome mind. Rather, it is a misuse of those features to remove a small issue for a hefty price.
However, in many previous cases similar to this, Angle apparently outright disregarded the consequences (=inconvenience to players) of making ridiculous timers and added a 3 second timer to shoot a rocket after switching to it, a 2 second timer to use a weapon after /wep (@Angle this is why I don't reveal most bugs I know of to you. I do not trust you at all with the method you use to 'resolve' them.) and a 2 second timer to use /wep after using a weapon.

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

ReBorN wrote:Why not adding a timer To /kill and on /q if player Do this he should wait for 5 min Awesome Mind Right? Like in EC Server i a player is doing /kill is need to wait 3 minutes.

It is not an awesome mind. Rather, it is a misuse of those features to remove a small issue for a hefty price.
However, in many previous cases similar to this, Angle apparently outright disregarded the consequences (=inconvenience to players) of making ridiculous timers and added a 3 second timer to shoot a rocket after switching to it, a 2 second timer to use a weapon after /wep (@Angle this is why I don't reveal most bugs I know of to you. I do not trust you at all with the method you use to 'resolve' them.) and a 2 second timer to use /wep after using a weapon.

It's called nerfing. Making a weapon more fair to the rest, I Think it's more realistic to have it work this way. Who the hell can shoot with an m4 and equip a rocket launcher and fire a shot within 1 second? No one sir.

What do you propose we do?
Is it:

1. Remove the /wep or rocket launcher.
2. Let people abuse the bug
3. Add rules for it and ban 50 % of the population.

It's either nerf or remove man. YOu didn't come up with a better solution. Sure we can add a really complicated rule so you can abuse that rule for your on advantage. But seriously having a timer to rocket launcher is the best thing possible, because now that weapon isn't overpowered and you only use it in situations that makes sense to use it. For example while camping. You can't just be in a m4 duel and then fast switch to the rocket to kill the other player.

About wep are you F*cking stupid? People are detected as hackers when using /wep by the admins. There wpuld be so much abusing that can be done that breaks the rules if that limit wasn't there. You need to understand that making a complicated rule that 90 % of the player base will break isn't good either.

I have tested a /kill delay. It's annoying and serves no purpose whatsoever. A 2 second in the rocket launcher however punishes players who use the rocket launcher in an illegal way and doesn't affect the players who use it in a legal way.

A 2 second timer in /wep after you enter aiming presents people from playing unfairly, but in what way does it prevent you from playing fairly? No way whatsoever, if you fight in a way where you need to use /wep 2 seconds after you enter aiming mode, you're not fighting a way that is fairly.

=SdS=KrlozZ... wrote:+1 thats a good suggestion. ._.

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

ReBorN wrote:Why not adding a timer To /kill and on /q if player Do this he should wait for 5 min Awesome Mind Right? Like in EC Server i a player is doing /kill is need to wait 3 minutes.

It is not an awesome mind. Rather, it is a misuse of those features to remove a small issue for a hefty price.
However, in many previous cases similar to this, Angle apparently outright disregarded the consequences (=inconvenience to players) of making ridiculous timers and added a 3 second timer to shoot a rocket after switching to it, a 2 second timer to use a weapon after /wep (@Angle this is why I don't reveal most bugs I know of to you. I do not trust you at all with the method you use to 'resolve' them.) and a 2 second timer to use /wep after using a weapon.

It's called nerfing. Making a weapon more fair to the rest, I Think it's more realistic to have it work this way. Who the hell can shoot with an m4 and equip a rocket launcher and fire a shot within 1 second? No one sir.

What do you propose we do?
Is it:

1. Remove the /wep or rocket launcher.
2. Let people abuse the bug
3. Add rules for it and ban 50 % of the population.

It's either nerf or remove man. YOu didn't come up with a better solution. Sure we can add a really complicated rule so you can abuse that rule for your on advantage. But seriously having a timer to rocket launcher is the best thing possible, because now that weapon isn't overpowered and you only use it in situations that makes sense to use it. For example while camping. You can't just be in a m4 duel and then fast switch to the rocket to kill the other player.

About wep are you F*cking stupid? People are detected as hackers when using /wep by the admins. There wpuld be so much abusing that can be done that breaks the rules if that limit wasn't there. You need to understand that making a complicated rule that 90 % of the player base will break isn't good either.

I have tested a /kill delay. It's annoying and serves no purpose whatsoever. A 2 second in the rocket launcher however punishes players who use the rocket launcher in an illegal way and doesn't affect the players who use it in a legal way.

A 2 second timer in /wep after you enter aiming presents people from playing unfairly, but in what way does it prevent you from playing fairly? No way whatsoever, if you fight in a way where you need to use /wep 2 seconds after you enter aiming mode, you're not fighting a way that is fairly.

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

ReBorN wrote:Why not adding a timer To /kill and on /q if player Do this he should wait for 5 min Awesome Mind Right? Like in EC Server i a player is doing /kill is need to wait 3 minutes.

It is not an awesome mind. Rather, it is a misuse of those features to remove a small issue for a hefty price.
However, in many previous cases similar to this, Angle apparently outright disregarded the consequences (=inconvenience to players) of making ridiculous timers and added a 3 second timer to shoot a rocket after switching to it, a 2 second timer to use a weapon after /wep (@Angle this is why I don't reveal most bugs I know of to you. I do not trust you at all with the method you use to 'resolve' them.) and a 2 second timer to use /wep after using a weapon.

It's called nerfing. Making a weapon more fair to the rest, I Think it's more realistic to have it work this way. Who the hell can shoot with an m4 and equip a rocket launcher and fire a shot within 1 second? No one sir.

What do you propose we do?
Is it:

1. Remove the /wep or rocket launcher.
2. Let people abuse the bug
3. Add rules for it and ban 50 % of the population.

It's either nerf or remove man. YOu didn't come up with a better solution. Sure we can add a really complicated rule so you can abuse that rule for your on advantage. But seriously having a timer to rocket launcher is the best thing possible, because now that weapon isn't overpowered and you only use it in situations that makes sense to use it. For example while camping. You can't just be in a m4 duel and then fast switch to the rocket to kill the other player.

About wep are you F*cking stupid? People are detected as hackers when using /wep by the admins. There wpuld be so much abusing that can be done that breaks the rules if that limit wasn't there. You need to understand that making a complicated rule that 90 % of the player base will break isn't good either.

I have tested a /kill delay. It's annoying and serves no purpose whatsoever. A 2 second in the rocket launcher however punishes players who use the rocket launcher in an illegal way and doesn't affect the players who use it in a legal way.

A 2 second timer in /wep after you enter aiming presents people from playing unfairly, but in what way does it prevent you from playing fairly? No way whatsoever, if you fight in a way where you need to use /wep 2 seconds after you enter aiming mode, you're not fighting a way that is fairly.

1. "Who the hell can shoot with an m4 and equip a rocket launcher and fire a shot within 1 second? No one sir."
Are you talking about having it comparable to real life? If so, then who can carry 8 weapons with them at a time?
If you're talking about it that it isn't possible in game, yes, it is very possible and I do it a lot of times and then get angry when it doesn't work.
Obviously, I propose either "Let people abuse the bug" or "Add rules for it and ban 50 % of the population.".

2. "About wep are you F*cking stupid? People are detected as hackers when using /wep by the admins. There wpuld be so much abusing that can be done that breaks the rules if that limit wasn't there. You need to understand that making a complicated rule that 90 % of the player base will break isn't good either."
Then solve the problem, don't downright remove it.

3. "I have tested a /kill delay."
Kill delays are ridiculous. You can always jump into the sea and drown yourself.

4. "A 2 second timer in /wep after you enter aiming presents people from playing unfairly, but in what way does it prevent you from playing fairly? No way whatsoever, if you fight in a way where you need to use /wep 2 seconds after you enter aiming mode, you're not fighting a way that is fairly."
1. Long ago (I now adopted the 0/ins and 1 key for switching weapons), the only way I used to switch weapons (when on keyboard) was to type /we or press the '1' key to switch to the next weapon. I carried only 1 weapon with me so that I can fastswitch between it and fist. If I wanted to use stubby, I would jump, type /we st and quickly switch to mouse.
2. Sniping and then immediately switching to another weapon for instance (you don't have enough time in that situation to go through all the weapons you carry and switch to that particular weapon).

Chuck Norris wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:

EK.CrystalBlue wrote:

ReBorN wrote:Why not adding a timer To /kill and on /q if player Do this he should wait for 5 min Awesome Mind Right? Like in EC Server i a player is doing /kill is need to wait 3 minutes.

It is not an awesome mind. Rather, it is a misuse of those features to remove a small issue for a hefty price.
However, in many previous cases similar to this, Angle apparently outright disregarded the consequences (=inconvenience to players) of making ridiculous timers and added a 3 second timer to shoot a rocket after switching to it, a 2 second timer to use a weapon after /wep (@Angle this is why I don't reveal most bugs I know of to you. I do not trust you at all with the method you use to 'resolve' them.) and a 2 second timer to use /wep after using a weapon.

It's called nerfing. Making a weapon more fair to the rest, I Think it's more realistic to have it work this way. Who the hell can shoot with an m4 and equip a rocket launcher and fire a shot within 1 second? No one sir.

What do you propose we do?
Is it:

1. Remove the /wep or rocket launcher.
2. Let people abuse the bug
3. Add rules for it and ban 50 % of the population.

It's either nerf or remove man. YOu didn't come up with a better solution. Sure we can add a really complicated rule so you can abuse that rule for your on advantage. But seriously having a timer to rocket launcher is the best thing possible, because now that weapon isn't overpowered and you only use it in situations that makes sense to use it. For example while camping. You can't just be in a m4 duel and then fast switch to the rocket to kill the other player.

About wep are you F*cking stupid? People are detected as hackers when using /wep by the admins. There wpuld be so much abusing that can be done that breaks the rules if that limit wasn't there. You need to understand that making a complicated rule that 90 % of the player base will break isn't good either.

I have tested a /kill delay. It's annoying and serves no purpose whatsoever. A 2 second in the rocket launcher however punishes players who use the rocket launcher in an illegal way and doesn't affect the players who use it in a legal way.

A 2 second timer in /wep after you enter aiming presents people from playing unfairly, but in what way does it prevent you from playing fairly? No way whatsoever, if you fight in a way where you need to use /wep 2 seconds after you enter aiming mode, you're not fighting a way that is fairly.

1. "Who the hell can shoot with an m4 and equip a rocket launcher and fire a shot within 1 second? No one sir."
Are you talking about having it comparable to real life? If so, then who can carry 8 weapons with them at a time?
If you're talking about it that it isn't possible in game, yes, it is very possible and I do it a lot of times and then get angry when it doesn't work.
Obviously, I propose either "Let people abuse the bug" or "Add rules for it and ban 50 % of the population.".

2. "About wep are you F*cking stupid? People are detected as hackers when using /wep by the admins. There wpuld be so much abusing that can be done that breaks the rules if that limit wasn't there. You need to understand that making a complicated rule that 90 % of the player base will break isn't good either."
Then solve the problem, don't downright remove it.

3. "I have tested a /kill delay."
Kill delays are ridiculous. You can always jump into the sea and drown yourself.

4. "A 2 second timer in /wep after you enter aiming presents people from playing unfairly, but in what way does it prevent you from playing fairly? No way whatsoever, if you fight in a way where you need to use /wep 2 seconds after you enter aiming mode, you're not fighting a way that is fairly."
1. Long ago (I now adopted the 0/ins and 1 key for switching weapons), the only way I used to switch weapons (when on keyboard) was to type /we or press the '1' key to switch to the next weapon. I carried only 1 weapon with me so that I can fastswitch between it and fist. If I wanted to use stubby, I would jump, type /we st and quickly switch to mouse.
2. Sniping and then immediately switching to another weapon for instance (you don't have enough time in that situation to go through all the weapons you carry and switch to that particular weapon).

1. So it's better to let people abuse the glitch and let them look like hackers? When I saw the turbo glitch I didn't want to play at all. It was so unfair. Explain to me why that's a good thing. You only Think about yourself. You don't Think about the majority.

2. Thanks Master Crystal please enlighten me. This is a solution to the problem. You're basically complaining that I added a gate to the stairway of your apartment complex that can be easily opened in 2 seconds because a lot of the other residents fall down those stairs and you want me to remove the gate because it now takes you 2 second longer to use the stairs. That's basically how stupid your argument is. You're obviously not playing the game as it was meant to play with my vision if your playstyle requires you to use /wep 2 seconds after you enter aiming mode.

You're so welcome to solve this issue and waste so much F*cking time on it. For once you can actually help the server and not complain.

3. I said that I didn't like the kill delay after I tested it.

4. When you play like that it's a risk that you trigger a sliding bug and sliding bugs are no fun for the rest. I have already commented about your playstyle in 2.

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╰☆╮羽熙_ wrote:Chuck Norris=VK.Angel.OfDeath?

╰☆╮羽熙_ wrote:Sry,man.
I didnt notice that.