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Accepted [Accepted] Player Report - Spawnkillers

Post by The_Assassin^ Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:28 pm

Your in-game name: The_Assassin^
Rulebreaker (in-game name): watch the video you will notice them
Date and time of Rulebreaking: 04.06.2020
What did THEY do? Describe please: spawnkilling
Level in /suspects and /hackcheck info (Skip if you are not a server admin): ??

Players who witnessed the violation (in-game names): Hyperosama

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Note that i got bored of being spawnkilled everytime on this server.I decided to download a video capture software to show you how i am suffering from these spawnkillers.


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Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:17 pm

It seems like you can't post links the first few days of registration. When you spawn use /gotoloc and then /nogoto on, /radaroff and /spectatemode off.

For now you can try to post the video by adding spaces to link the or something.
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Post by The_Assassin^ Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:37 pm

thanks. edited.
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Post by MeLoDy^ Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:52 pm

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:It seems like you can't post links the first few days of registration. When you spawn use /gotoloc and then /nogoto on, /radaroff and /spectatemode off.

For now you can try to post the video by adding spaces to link the or something.

First of all, I would like to present something to you from my side.

And here it is :
Why don't this guy use /gotoloc <etc place> whenever he gets spawn?
Then why does this guy can't use "/nogoto full, /radaroff and /spectatemode off" cmds?
He just spawn at stand at one place. IDK why, he don't wants to defense for himself. Just after he gets spawn, he immediatally use punch, shoots with spas and shoot with sniping guns. That's why even in his videos, you can "Spawn protection disabled because you started fighting". This guy must have that knowledge, if your skills are poor and you can't fight or defense for yourself, then atleast... you can get out of here from the same place you're spawning and use those commands I've told above. But he likes to spawn, turns his spawn protection disable or standing at one place. If you're newbie and you can not find then atleast you can run out of that place. LMAO
The same you can see in my video, how I use to kill him and at 3:13 "WHERE ThyLisH knock him down with grenade" so that means he immediatally turn off his spawn protection, otherwise how the player can get damage LOL? Razz
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Post by The_Assassin^ Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:47 pm

Both today.

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Post by SparkeR Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:23 pm

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Post by 薄霧. Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:15 am

Can you please change the title to 'Player Report - (Name)'. You usually won't get much attention from admins if don't use the correct format. I'll look into your videos, thanks for reporting.
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Post by 薄霧. Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:29 am

I've checked those videos, and I have a pretty clear result. I'd like to start by saying that what they did here is not considered as Spawnkilling, and they were not breaking any rules. But I'd also like to add that what they were doing here was absolutely abominable. As all of you being old players, and Assassin being a new player who spends hours playing this server even with people killing him so often that he beat Rainbow_Dash for the lowest K/D ratio, you should help him adjust to the server by at least telling him how the spawnkilling works. I understand that it's not your duty and you're free to do what you did, but that doesn't mean you should do it. You should take care next time that you allow people some time to know about the server, or at least leave them alone and wait for and admin to help them. Here, he was constantly punching the air which disabled his spawn protection and allowed you to get constant kills. This could almost be considered as stats padding.

Assassin, when you spawn in the VKs server, no one can harm you for 5 seconds, which is called the spawn protection. If you teleport, or if you shoot or just press the LMB key, or whatever your key for shooting is, your spawn protection is disabled. Here, when you spawn you were constantly pressing your key for firing, which disabled your spawn protection, and allowed the others to easily get a kill of you. Next time when you spawn, you shouldn't immediately start shooting, but rather get in position, and be strategic. You should also keep in mind that you will disable the spawn protection if you press the fire key even if you've not equipped any weapon.
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Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:41 am

"You are not allowed to kill a player after they spawn without having them a chance to escape within the first 5 seconds of when they spawn except if they teleport from their location or by attacking other players after they spawn which will automatically disable the spawn protection and therefore spawn killing can only be done using python, helicannon, heli blade, drive-by, chainsaw or by abusing shotgun bug due to a VCMP bug, players breaking this rule should be warned on the first offense and temp-ban on the second offense."

What I am seeing is that a lot of people are attacking the spawn place and not giving the dude any time to escape. The first video where melody, meme and fizz are standing on the spawn place surrounding him with chainsaws is clearly spawn killing and those players should be warned accordingly.

I am telling you guys to stop pushing the limit. It doesn't matter if he stands still you have to give him 5 seconds before you kill him. Every time. Using Chainsaw is definitely spawn killing because correct me if I am wrong it bypasses the 5-second limit.



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Post by 薄霧. Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:45 am

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:"You are not allowed to kill a player after they spawn without having them a chance to escape within the first 5 seconds of when they spawn except if they teleport from their location or by attacking other players after they spawn which will automatically disable the spawn protection and therefore spawn killing can only be done using python, helicannon, heli blade, drive-by, chainsaw or by abusing shotgun bug due to a VCMP bug, players breaking this rule should be warned on the first offense and temp-ban on the second offense."

What I am seeing is that a lot of people are attacking the spawn place and not giving the dude any time to escape. The first video where melody, meme and fizz are standing on the spawn place surrounding him with chainsaws is clearly spawn killing and those players should be warned accordingly.

I am telling you guys to stop pushing the limit. It doesn't matter if he stands still you have to give him 5 seconds before you kill him. Every time. Using Chainsaw is definitely spawn killing because correct me if I am wrong it bypasses the 5-second limit.




I'm not sure how that works with the Chainsaw, but that doesn't matter here. He was clearly immediately shooting while having fists equipped which disabled the spawn protection and let them kill him. The rules say that if he disables the protection by firing, it counts as 'except'. I don't think the rule has any problem. It's just that new players don't understand Spawn Protection well, so old players take advantage of that to get free kills.
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Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:48 am

K2. wrote:
VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:"You are not allowed to kill a player after they spawn without having them a chance to escape within the first 5 seconds of when they spawn except if they teleport from their location or by attacking other players after they spawn which will automatically disable the spawn protection and therefore spawn killing can only be done using python, helicannon, heli blade, drive-by, chainsaw or by abusing shotgun bug due to a VCMP bug, players breaking this rule should be warned on the first offense and temp-ban on the second offense."

What I am seeing is that a lot of people are attacking the spawn place and not giving the dude any time to escape. The first video where melody, meme and fizz are standing on the spawn place surrounding him with chainsaws is clearly spawn killing and those players should be warned accordingly.

I am telling you guys to stop pushing the limit. It doesn't matter if he stands still you have to give him 5 seconds before you kill him. Every time. Using Chainsaw is definitely spawn killing because correct me if I am wrong it bypasses the 5-second limit.




I'm not sure how that works with the Chainsaw, but that doesn't matter here. He was clearly immediately shooting while having fists equipped which disabled the spawn protection and let them kill him. The rules say that if he disables the protection by firing, it counts as 'except'. I don't think the rule has any problem. It's just that new players don't understand Spawn Protection well, so old players take advantage of that to get free kills.

Yes it is true he attacks immediately when he spawns. Seems to me like this is more like stats padding than actually spawnkilling. Either way what they're doing should be punished.
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Accepted Re: [Accepted] Player Report - Spawnkillers

Post by Frozen Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:54 am

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
K2. wrote:
VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:"You are not allowed to kill a player after they spawn without having them a chance to escape within the first 5 seconds of when they spawn except if they teleport from their location or by attacking other players after they spawn which will automatically disable the spawn protection and therefore spawn killing can only be done using python, helicannon, heli blade, drive-by, chainsaw or by abusing shotgun bug due to a VCMP bug, players breaking this rule should be warned on the first offense and temp-ban on the second offense."

What I am seeing is that a lot of people are attacking the spawn place and not giving the dude any time to escape. The first video where melody, meme and fizz are standing on the spawn place surrounding him with chainsaws is clearly spawn killing and those players should be warned accordingly.

I am telling you guys to stop pushing the limit. It doesn't matter if he stands still you have to give him 5 seconds before you kill him. Every time. Using Chainsaw is definitely spawn killing because correct me if I am wrong it bypasses the 5-second limit.




I'm not sure how that works with the Chainsaw, but that doesn't matter here. He was clearly immediately shooting while having fists equipped which disabled the spawn protection and let them kill him. The rules say that if he disables the protection by firing, it counts as 'except'. I don't think the rule has any problem. It's just that new players don't understand Spawn Protection well, so old players take advantage of that to get free kills.

Yes it is true he attacks immediately when he spawns. Seems to me like this is more like stats padding than actually spawnkilling. Either way what they're doing should be punished.

Sorry for posting here, but to say that, he himself provokes others to do stats-padding as well as let others to do spawn-killings, (he isn't that much old player, as he knew how to use commands like /gotoloc, and /radaroff), before he could use these commands, but suddenly dunno what happened to him. He's doing these things deliberately.

First time I saw him in server, he was really clever player, using all commands intelligently, doing camping around the map, and now suddenly he is doing this all.
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Accepted Re: [Accepted] Player Report - Spawnkillers

Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:56 am

Mr.WicK wrote:
VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
K2. wrote:
VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:"You are not allowed to kill a player after they spawn without having them a chance to escape within the first 5 seconds of when they spawn except if they teleport from their location or by attacking other players after they spawn which will automatically disable the spawn protection and therefore spawn killing can only be done using python, helicannon, heli blade, drive-by, chainsaw or by abusing shotgun bug due to a VCMP bug, players breaking this rule should be warned on the first offense and temp-ban on the second offense."

What I am seeing is that a lot of people are attacking the spawn place and not giving the dude any time to escape. The first video where melody, meme and fizz are standing on the spawn place surrounding him with chainsaws is clearly spawn killing and those players should be warned accordingly.

I am telling you guys to stop pushing the limit. It doesn't matter if he stands still you have to give him 5 seconds before you kill him. Every time. Using Chainsaw is definitely spawn killing because correct me if I am wrong it bypasses the 5-second limit.




I'm not sure how that works with the Chainsaw, but that doesn't matter here. He was clearly immediately shooting while having fists equipped which disabled the spawn protection and let them kill him. The rules say that if he disables the protection by firing, it counts as 'except'. I don't think the rule has any problem. It's just that new players don't understand Spawn Protection well, so old players take advantage of that to get free kills.

Yes it is true he attacks immediately when he spawns. Seems to me like this is more like stats padding than actually spawnkilling. Either way what they're doing should be punished.

Sorry for posting here, but to say that, he himself provokes others to do stats-padding as well as let others to do spawn-killings, at the beginning(he isn't that much old player, as he knew how to use commands like /gotoloc, and /radaroff), before he could use these commands, but suddenly dunno what happened to him. He's doing these things deliberately.

Even if he is. You are not allowed to stats pad. You people had a choice to report him or to kill him and gain stats. It's clear to me that everyone here choose to go along with it to gain more stats. It's not acceptable. If he is doing this you guys should have reported him. Please keep this in mind next time.
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Post by 薄霧. Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:01 am

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
Mr.WicK wrote:
VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:
K2. wrote:
VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:"You are not allowed to kill a player after they spawn without having them a chance to escape within the first 5 seconds of when they spawn except if they teleport from their location or by attacking other players after they spawn which will automatically disable the spawn protection and therefore spawn killing can only be done using python, helicannon, heli blade, drive-by, chainsaw or by abusing shotgun bug due to a VCMP bug, players breaking this rule should be warned on the first offense and temp-ban on the second offense."

What I am seeing is that a lot of people are attacking the spawn place and not giving the dude any time to escape. The first video where melody, meme and fizz are standing on the spawn place surrounding him with chainsaws is clearly spawn killing and those players should be warned accordingly.

I am telling you guys to stop pushing the limit. It doesn't matter if he stands still you have to give him 5 seconds before you kill him. Every time. Using Chainsaw is definitely spawn killing because correct me if I am wrong it bypasses the 5-second limit.




I'm not sure how that works with the Chainsaw, but that doesn't matter here. He was clearly immediately shooting while having fists equipped which disabled the spawn protection and let them kill him. The rules say that if he disables the protection by firing, it counts as 'except'. I don't think the rule has any problem. It's just that new players don't understand Spawn Protection well, so old players take advantage of that to get free kills.

Yes it is true he attacks immediately when he spawns. Seems to me like this is more like stats padding than actually spawnkilling. Either way what they're doing should be punished.

Sorry for posting here, but to say that, he himself provokes others to do stats-padding as well as let others to do spawn-killings, at the beginning(he isn't that much old player, as he knew how to use commands like /gotoloc, and /radaroff), before he could use these commands, but suddenly dunno what happened to him. He's doing these things deliberately.

Even if he is. You are not allowed to stats pad. You people had a choice to report him or to kill him and gain stats. It's clear to me that everyone here choose to go along with it to gain more stats. It's not acceptable. If he is doing this you guys should have reported him. Please keep this in mind next time.

You could say it's stats padding, but I hope you understand that this doesn't count as spawn killing. This definitely seems like stats padding, but I'm not sure about that since I've always apart from this video seen that Assassin lightly resists attacks made on him. He's like another 'ibm', but with more sense. I don't think it will be fair to punish him as a stats padder.
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Accepted Lets check the bug!

Post by The_Assassin^ Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:28 am

High level admins should know about the glitch, if someone attacks me in front of with chainsaw the player instantly plays punch animations 20 in a row so the script thinks i am fighting. Unfortunately the tommy skin spawns with punch so you all think i pressed the punch button, lets see. you admins come in game and i will report the bug. also tell me what is stats padding. they always 6v1 or 10v1 on me, then everything goes into spawnkilling.
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Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:31 am

The_Assassin^ wrote:High level admins should know about the glitch, if someone attacks me in front of with chainsaw the player instantly plays punch animations 20 in a row so the script thinks i am fighting. Unfortunately the tommy skin spawns with punch so you all think i pressed the punch button, lets see. you admins come in game and i will report the bug. also tell me what is stats padding. they always 6v1 or 10v1 on me, then everything goes into spawnkilling.

I will look into that punch thing, might be something with your computer actually because I have never heard it before, but I'll take a look. But still, why don't you use /nogoto full, /spectatemode off and /radaroff when you play. I saw in some videos you still had it on. It seems in most cases you're standing still for several seconds as well.

If you want to be left alone. You can probably do that.
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Post by SparkeR Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:12 pm

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Accepted Re: [Accepted] Player Report - Spawnkillers

Post by Mo7amd Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:48 pm

The_Assassin^ wrote:Your in-game name: The_Assassin^
Rulebreaker (in-game name): watch the video you will notice them
Date and time of Rulebreaking: 04.06.2020
What did THEY do? Describe please: spawnkilling
Level in /suspects and /hackcheck info (Skip if you are not a server admin): ??

Players who witnessed the violation (in-game names): Hyperosama

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Note that i got bored of being spawnkilled everytime on this server.I decided to download a video capture software to show you how i am suffering from these spawnkillers.

The_Assassin^ wrote:Both today.


Well Assassin, According to our rules I see that the following players should be punched for Spawn-killing you that they spammed your spawns location with chainsaw, "[F2]Sparker^ (Perma-warn) ,FFIZ* (Perma-warn), UnknownMeme (Perma-warn), [F2]Melody (Perma-warn).".
And for BlackOps, you have got a good time to run or use /gotoloc , So i would like to verbally warn him that what he did may a cause a spawn kill in sometimes.
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As there is other admins talking here about i would love to leave the action for them.
Thanks for your reporting anything you could feel it is rule break.
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Accepted Re: [Accepted] Player Report - Spawnkillers

Post by D4rKR420R Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:23 pm

I will not be punishing BlackOpsKiller and Sparker because you had many chances to escape from them and seems intolerable for you to keep spawning so they'd be punished on purpose. However, Assassin didn't have a chance to escape from the early videos, so the following people will be punished: FizZ*, UnknownMeme, and MeLoDy.

Report accepted.
Thank you for reporting and your cooperation.
Have a nice day.
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