[Denied] Admin Report - maxpayne 2

by **?????????** Sun May 27, 2018 6:57 pm

Your in-game name:[ON]HunTinG
Rulebreaker (in-game name):=EK=Maxpayne
Date and time of Rulebreaking:today
What did he do? Describe please: unfair ban for invalid rule

Players who witnessed the violation (in-game names): halo

Any links to screenshots you took as evidence:
[Denied] Admin Report - maxpayne 2 2HLnBg7

[Denied] Admin Report - maxpayne 2 2HLnBg7

read again rules
https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t17p50-server-rules-updated-25-05-2018#157516

by **MaxX** Sun May 27, 2018 7:03 pm

Wall glitching (III): Glitching by killing from a place that isn't accesible without the use of any commands or from a place not possible to get to without penetrating a object/solid (a wall, a roof, a fence, etc.
Wall glitch rule sentence removed: Using a weapon to kill someone by the impact of that weapon that penetrates a solid object is also not allowed from any position.

The management team voted for removing this rule since it's impossible for this not to happen with people who uses the rocket launcher. The case I used in my example in the topic was this: A player behind a wall next to a door opening (for example cuban cafe) if someone for example shots a rocket at the door opening it's not a rule break, however if a person shots a rocket at the edge of the door it's a rule break. This is kinda stupid and too easy to break.

As always however: Using any weapons from a place not accessible without teleporting or penetrating a solid object is still against the rules, but shooting a rocket at a wall and killing someone from the other side is not (as long as the guy shooting the rocket didn't glitch into a wall himself).
Rip you for 3 days i told so many times dont, dont but you didnt listen me Razz

, post unban app bro me will deal with it :C with "love"

by **helathien** Sun May 27, 2018 7:04 pm

The picture is too big for the forum. Here is the full image, as Reason is not shown in you pic cause its too big.

[Denied] Admin Report - maxpayne 2 2hlnbg12

[Denied] Admin Report - maxpayne 2 2hlnbg12

Reason: Wall Glitching.

( This is not shown on atleast my PC and Mobile so its easier for u )

by **?????????** Sun May 27, 2018 7:09 pm

Maxpayne^ wrote:Wall glitching (III): Glitching by killing from a place that isn't accesible without the use of any commands or from a place not possible to get to without penetrating a object/solid (a wall, a roof, a fence, etc.
Wall glitch rule sentence removed: Using a weapon to kill someone by the impact of that weapon that penetrates a solid object is also not allowed from any position.

The management team voted for removing this rule since it's impossible for this not to happen with people who uses the rocket launcher. The case I used in my example in the topic was this: A player behind a wall next to a door opening (for example cuban cafe) if someone for example shots a rocket at the door opening it's not a rule break, however if a person shots a rocket at the edge of the door it's a rule break. This is kinda stupid and too easy to break.

As always however: Using any weapons from a place not accessible without teleporting or penetrating a solid object is still against the rules, but shooting a rocket at a wall and killing someone from the other side is not (as long as the guy shooting the rocket didn't glitch into a wall himself).
Rip you for 3 days i told so many times dont, dont but you didnt listen me , post unban app bro me will deal with it :C with "love"

i wasn't in a glitch bro, so you have to unban fast Very Happy

'penetrating a solid object' is an example of DewardUzumaki's ban

plus tools is easy to penetrate the walls

by **?????????** Sun May 27, 2018 7:20 pm

your logic breaks common sense lol
how can penetrating a wall with explosion be considered rule break unless we involve VCMP glitches? it's something common in 90% of the games (as 10% do not feature explosions n shit)

by **Chuck Norris** Sun May 27, 2018 8:13 pm

I have no idea what you're saying Max. But this is the rule you should go after from the server rules.

"Glitching by killing from a place that isn't accesible without the use of any commands or from a place not possible to get to without penetrating a object/solid (a wall, a roof, a fence, etc.) is not allowed unless there is no wall separating the killer from the victim. If you're caught wall glitching in this way, you will first get a warning, then get a kick on the second offense and finally get a temp-ban on any subsequent offenses."

The tricky part about this is property doors. When property doors are closed this rule is true. However normally that place Max is standing at is accessible without the use of any commands or penetrating a wall.

Unfortunately to me it seems like this is a flaw on the rules. I am gonna bring this up in the management section to make an exception for property doors.
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Also have hunting done this before to justify a ban?

by **MaxX** Sun May 27, 2018 8:38 pm

No, he didn't done this before to proof that wall glitch rule is wrong. but he is warned several times and even kick from server for breaking wall glitch rule when it was not updated when i didn't have level 6.

by **Chuck Norris** Sun May 27, 2018 8:48 pm

Maxpayne^ wrote:No, he didn't done this before to proof that wall glitch rule is wrong. but he is warned several times and even kick from server for breaking wall glitch rule when it was not updated when i didn't have level 6.

"but he is warned several times and even kick from server for breaking wall glitch rule when it was not updated when i didn't have level 6"

This means yes.

"No, he didn't done this before to proof that wall glitch rule is wrong."

This means no.

So which one is it lol. If you have warned him before prior to the rule change then it's okay.

by **MaxX** Sun May 27, 2018 9:01 pm

Chuck Norris wrote:
Maxpayne^ wrote:No, he didn't done this before to proof that wall glitch rule is wrong. but he is warned several times and even kick from server for breaking wall glitch rule when it was not updated when i didn't have level 6.

"but he is warned several times and even kick from server for breaking wall glitch rule when it was not updated when i didn't have level 6"

This means yes.

"No, he didn't done this before to proof that wall glitch rule is wrong."

This means no.

So which one is it lol. If you have warned him before prior to the rule change then it's okay.

D: first one he did break wall glitching rules several times. So, should i unban him? if you say but i think i should decrease it to 1 day max and i mean that he didnt done wall glitch before intentionally/on purpose to proof that wall glitch rule was wrong in my thinking.

by **?????????** Sun May 27, 2018 9:05 pm

I did this before and I wanted to make fun of max (he's my ~~B*tch~~ friend)
don't get it how exploding a player standing near wall can be disallowed

the place I shot indeed is accessible anytime in normal game & no bugs needed to enter it it's always open.

instead max might misunderstood it

by **Chuck Norris** Sun May 27, 2018 9:46 pm

This is a special case. I don't personally believe that either Hunting or Max made any mistakes in at least this report, it's the rules that are flawed in this very special case that involves property doors. What to do is hard to say. If you keep your 3 day ban hunting, at least be happy that thanks to you this flaw in the rule will at least be removed in the future (if everyone votes yes for it, so far 3 yes votes).

As for Max, can't really give you any advise on what to do on this one, kinda hard in this very specific case. Whatever you do it's perfectly acceptable according to the rules.

by **[F2]Don_Bradman** Mon May 28, 2018 5:51 am

Rightfully banned, I saw u firing through the wall glitches in the Free For All spawn area, but unfortunately couldnt record it

by **?????????** Mon May 28, 2018 10:31 am

¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

don ki chut learn vcmp B*tch

there's no way to wall glitch with rocket lol

There is common sense

by **Thunder_B!rd** Mon May 28, 2018 10:57 am

HunTinG wrote:¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

don ki chut learn vcmp B*tch

there's no way to wall glitch with rocket lol
There is common sense

Then the report that helathien made on me should be denied right?

by **helathien** Mon May 28, 2018 11:17 am

Thunder_Bird wrote:
HunTinG wrote:¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

don ki chut learn vcmp B*tch

there's no way to wall glitch with rocket lol
There is common sense
Then the report that helathien made on me should be denied right?

Report on you?
I made a report on Chili.X ( If that is not you, Is it you? )

by **Pavonis** Mon May 28, 2018 11:47 am

[KM]Helathien wrote:
Thunder_Bird wrote:
HunTinG wrote:¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

don ki chut learn vcmp B*tch

there's no way to wall glitch with rocket lol
There is common sense
Then the report that helathien made on me should be denied right?

Report on you?
I made a report on Chili.X ( If that is not you, Is it you? )

Exposed Baby! But, I already knew it. :V

by [F2]M60^ Mon May 28, 2018 2:24 pm

Pavonis wrote:
[KM]Helathien wrote:
Thunder_Bird wrote:
HunTinG wrote:¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

don ki chut learn vcmp B*tch

there's no way to wall glitch with rocket lol
There is common sense
Then the report that helathien made on me should be denied right?

Report on you?
I made a report on Chili.X ( If that is not you, Is it you? )
Exposed Baby! But, I already knew it. :V

Pavonis Genius ?

by **ЧК.** Mon May 28, 2018 2:30 pm

Requesting everyone not involved in the case to stay away from the report before I start issuing warns.

by **?????????** Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:03 pm

bump

by **=SdS=KrlozZ...** Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:45 am

Not enought proofs.
Denied.

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