[Denied] admin report - =SdS=KrlozZ...

Your in-game name:=EK=Geogeo
Rulebreaker (in-game name):=SdS=KrlozZ...
Date and time of Rulebreaking:yesterday
What did he do? Describe please:well, i don't know what carlos was thinking when he denied my this report tbh,we work hard to caught rule breakers and in return we get this kind of replies from senior admins like carlos i mean really wtf is this, I reported him for wall glitching and this is what he has to say i mean really
https://imgur.com/WmS1BcG
does he even understand for what I've reported him seriously this is getting annoying it'll be better if we stop making reports on players when admins aren't taking our reports serious because I reported him for wall glitch and he denied it for wall hacks wtf! chinsaw glitch is same as wall glitch via rockets and grenades, recently he even denied wild hunter reports as well and after 4K saw it he re-opened it and both of the players were banned so carlos is friend to me,but i won't tolerate that type of behavior from level 8 admin  

Players who witnessed the violation (in-game names):

Any links to screenshots you took as evidence:
some of the recent reports
i want 4k to look at it
https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t9842-denied-player-report-spk_tharold#147206
here's the reverted reports
https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t9754-accepted-player-report-tdz-spirorasis
https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t9753-accepted-player-report-mcren

Well, I won't blame Krlozz in this case because when making the wallglitch rule we never thought about melee weapons for wallglitching and rule talks abouting shooting not attacking so according to rules it was the right decision to take.

ЧК. wrote:Well, I won't blame Krlozz in this case because when making the wallglitch rule we never thought about melee weapons for wallglitching and rule talks abouting shooting not attacking so according to rules it was the right decision to take.

well,but he denied it for wall hacks not for glitching and i think this rule needs to be added as well carlos need to make everything clear before denying a report

geogeo wrote:

ЧК. wrote:Well, I won't blame Krlozz in this case because when making the wallglitch rule we never thought about melee weapons for wallglitching and rule talks abouting shooting not attacking so according to rules it was the right decision to take.

well,but he denied it for wall hacks not for glitching and i think this rule needs to be added as well carlos need to make everything clear before denying a report

Sounds like a typing error to me

geogeo wrote:

ЧК. wrote:Well, I won't blame Krlozz in this case because when making the wallglitch rule we never thought about melee weapons for wallglitching and rule talks abouting shooting not attacking so according to rules it was the right decision to take.

well,but he denied it for wall hacks not for glitching and i think this rule needs to be added as well carlos need to make everything clear before denying a report

I agree with Don, maybe he just wrote hack instead of glitch by mistake, outcome would've been the same so if doesn't make a difference. Thanks for bring it to my attention, we'll discuss in management to edit the wallglitch rule.

U add my report but 4K say " i use teleport and aimbot with weps" :,V

ЧК. wrote:

geogeo wrote:

ЧК. wrote:Well, I won't blame Krlozz in this case because when making the wallglitch rule we never thought about melee weapons for wallglitching and rule talks abouting shooting not attacking so according to rules it was the right decision to take.

well,but he denied it for wall hacks not for glitching and i think this rule needs to be added as well carlos need to make everything clear before denying a report

I agree with Don, maybe he just wrote hack instead of glitch by mistake, outcome would've been the same so if doesn't make a difference. Thanks for bring it to my attention, we'll discuss in management to edit the wallglitch rule.

alright, then lock it Sir :X

good luck..

Huh! he is lvl 8 admin and he did not know what is wall glitch....xd :[[

I expect there will be a modification to the wall glitch rule, counting for melee weapons.

ЧК. wrote:Well, I won't blame Krlozz in this case because when making the wallglitch rule we never thought about melee weapons for wallglitching and rule talks abouting shooting not attacking so according to rules it was the right decision to take.

^^

Also if there is any report that confuses you, just leave it to other admins.

[F2]Don_Bradman wrote:

geogeo wrote:

ЧК. wrote:Well, I won't blame Krlozz in this case because when making the wallglitch rule we never thought about melee weapons for wallglitching and rule talks abouting shooting not attacking so according to rules it was the right decision to take.

well,but he denied it for wall hacks not for glitching and i think this rule needs to be added as well carlos need to make everything clear before denying a report

Sounds like a typing error to me

off-topic: welcome to event-staff Don

I admit my mistake about did type wall hack instead wall glitch, thats all, not for denied the report, as i said i think when the rule was made they did not wanted to consider it as wall glich, if there is any modification on the rule it will be after the report so the report still is denied.


if i did break a rule by solving with a report then this report can be accepted but i did not so i think this report should be denied.

I agreed what 4k said so and I already told to lock the topic

https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t9842-denied-player-report-spk_tharold#147206

It's common sense. In this game you SHOULDN"T be able to penetrate SOLID walls with Chainsaw.
SOLID is a common term used for objects like the gate. But this term is also applied to a whole building. It's like being inside an interior, like cherry oppers for example, close to the gate, and unexpectedly this guy penetrates the wall with a meele. You shouldn't be able to do that.

Admins should NOT depend on server rules only, but also on common sense which applies to this game.
What is the difference between a wall and that gate which he penetrated with the meele, aside from the aspect? Simply, there's none.
The object is entirely solid.
Also you shouldn't be allowed to kill those behind the gate because they are disadvantaged: they are unarmed and they can't fight back.

If someone can fight back means it should be allowed to wall glitch. There are equal chances for both. But for example using ghost city, is a very big advantage.
The laserscope itself should be able to penetrate walls with its powerful-caliber shots, just like chainsaw.

But for Geogeo's instance, this should be disallowed.
You should use common sense to solve such reports, not server rules.

HunTinG wrote:https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t9842-denied-player-report-spk_tharold#147206

It's common sense. In this game you SHOULDN"T be able to penetrate SOLID walls with Chainsaw.
SOLID is a common term used for objects like the gate. But this term is also applied to a whole building. It's like being inside an interior, like cherry oppers for example, close to the gate, and unexpectedly this guy penetrates the wall with a meele. You shouldn't be able to do that.

Admins should NOT depend on server rules only, but also on common sense which applies to this game.
What is the difference between a wall and that gate which he penetrated with the meele, aside from the aspect? Simply, there's none.
The object is entirely solid.
Also you shouldn't be allowed to kill those behind the gate because they are disadvantaged: they are unarmed and they can't fight back.

If someone can fight back means it should be allowed to wall glitch. There are equal chances for both. But for example using ghost city, is a very big advantage.
The laserscope itself should be able to penetrate walls with its powerful-caliber shots, just like chainsaw.

But for Geogeo's instance, this should be disallowed.
You should use common sense to solve such reports, not server rules.

We HAVE to use server rules, we are not allowed to use common sense, as the owner told us, we have to follow server rules, not what we think is wrong, so tell the owner that and if you do can change his mind we will do it, and this server will be different

Bad Luck Lol.
Same like krlozz says

=SdS=KrlozZ... wrote:We HAVE to use server rules

Yea, he right.
Because Angel don't add rules wall glitch with chainsaw for kill player.
If u don't move to door, u can't kill.
But player are standing door where player use chainsaw can be kill any player.
I see report this is ridiculous.

HunTinG wrote:https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t9842-denied-player-report-spk_tharold#147206

It's common sense. In this game you SHOULDN"T be able to penetrate SOLID walls with Chainsaw.
SOLID is a common term used for objects like the gate. But this term is also applied to a whole building. It's like being inside an interior, like cherry oppers for example, close to the gate, and unexpectedly this guy penetrates the wall with a meele. You shouldn't be able to do that.

Admins should NOT depend on server rules only, but also on common sense which applies to this game.
What is the difference between a wall and that gate which he penetrated with the meele, aside from the aspect? Simply, there's none.
The object is entirely solid.
Also you shouldn't be allowed to kill those behind the gate because they are disadvantaged: they are unarmed and they can't fight back.

If someone can fight back means it should be allowed to wall glitch. There are equal  chances for both. But for example using ghost city, is a very big advantage.
The laserscope itself should be able to penetrate walls with its powerful-caliber shots, just like chainsaw.

But for Geogeo's instance, this should be disallowed.
You should use common sense to solve such reports, not server rules.

Not all admins have the same common sense as each other and therefore it leads to confusion. That is why we strictly follow rules and if something should be disallowed we discuss in management to add the rule. Let's say someone thinks crouch shot or slide is an advantage just because the admin himself doesn't know how to slide then he punishes a player for it, so for most people slide should be allowed. Just like in EC they disallowed python slide (before switching to rel004) so if an EC admin becomes admin here then to his common sense slide should be prohibited while we allow sliding. Everyone has different opinions so we need server rules to be something every admin goes by strictly so everyone has the same opinion of what is allowed and what is not. Currently we're discussing to edit the wallglitch rule so it'll be fixed shortly. As far as this report goes, Krlozz didn't make any mistake so report will be denied.

Report denied.
Thanks for reporting.