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[Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
Your in-game name:[F2t]WiLD_HuNteR
Rulebreaker (in-game name):[KFt]MaSoN^
Date and time of Rulebreaking:Today
What did he do? Describe please:Well he warned me wrongfully as you can see in the video he was running and I shot him but his spawn protection was active so I killed him but he was gonna shoot me and if you guys think Mason did the right thing then pls watch the second video in which Mason did same thing to me I even ran less than him he has quite time to move around if he consider my kill as a spawnkill then he was also doing spawnkill
Players who witnessed the violation (in-game names):Signal,Geogeo,Rule and many more
Any links to screenshots you took as evidence:
https://imgur.com/TcJFuRu
Rulebreaker (in-game name):[KFt]MaSoN^
Date and time of Rulebreaking:Today
What did he do? Describe please:Well he warned me wrongfully as you can see in the video he was running and I shot him but his spawn protection was active so I killed him but he was gonna shoot me and if you guys think Mason did the right thing then pls watch the second video in which Mason did same thing to me I even ran less than him he has quite time to move around if he consider my kill as a spawnkill then he was also doing spawnkill
Players who witnessed the violation (in-game names):Signal,Geogeo,Rule and many more
Any links to screenshots you took as evidence:
https://imgur.com/TcJFuRu
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
You did spawnkill before that. And I did spawnkill once and apologized.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
I was there in the same prop while this incident happened, actually there was no spawnkill, and mason was simply talking a lot when he was getting killed by a lot of beach guys, there wasn't any legit verbal warn before he warned with /warn.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
Good luck.
I remember mason wrongfully warned once pavonis too for spawn kill.
I remember mason wrongfully warned once pavonis too for spawn kill.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
None of the videos above include spawnkill. In the first video, Mason was attacking so spawnkill doesn't count, and in the second video you were attacking so it doesn't count as spawnkill also.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
That's what iam trying to say kindly tell Mason to take back his warnЧК. wrote:None of the videos above include spawnkill. In the first video, Mason was attacking so spawnkill doesn't count, and in the second video you were attacking so it doesn't count as spawnkill also.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
WILD_HUNTER wrote:That's what iam trying to say kindly tell Mason to take back his warnЧК. wrote:None of the videos above include spawnkill. In the first video, Mason was attacking so spawnkill doesn't count, and in the second video you were attacking so it doesn't count as spawnkill also.
Please let Mason read my reply and understand why it is not spawnkill then we'll see what further action is needed to be taken.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
ЧК. wrote:WILD_HUNTER wrote:That's what iam trying to say kindly tell Mason to take back his warnЧК. wrote:None of the videos above include spawnkill. In the first video, Mason was attacking so spawnkill doesn't count, and in the second video you were attacking so it doesn't count as spawnkill also.
Please let Mason read my reply and understand why it is not spawnkill then we'll see what further action is needed to be taken.
Patiently waiting for Mason's reply
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
@"MaSoN"
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
proof seems to be valid :X
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
Honestly, mason you did spawnkill and wild_hunter did not. As you can see wild killed u after u spawn and was able to run away for 5 seconds. And what you did was spawnkill he didn't even got a second to run away and you shot him. You did the same thing with me. Mason, i really would like to tell you to read the spawnkilling rules or for more knowledge check other spawnkilling reports.
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Pavonis wrote:Honestly, mason you did spawnkill and wild_hunter did not. As you can see wild killed u after u spawn and was able to run away for 5 seconds. And what you did was spawnkill he didn't even got a second to run away and you shot him. You did the same thing with me. Mason, i really would like to tell you to read the spawnkilling rules or for more knowledge check other spawnkilling reports.
You can see Wild Hunter was shooting mp5 (even if it was accident) so he technically initiated attack therefore spawnkill doesn't count.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
Oh yea i think i got messed up on first time watch. So, none did spawnkilling. But still what mason's warn?ЧК. wrote:Pavonis wrote:Honestly, mason you did spawnkill and wild_hunter did not. As you can see wild killed u after u spawn and was able to run away for 5 seconds. And what you did was spawnkill he didn't even got a second to run away and you shot him. You did the same thing with me. Mason, i really would like to tell you to read the spawnkilling rules or for more knowledge check other spawnkilling reports.
You can see Wild Hunter was shooting mp5 (even if it was accident) so he technically initiated attack therefore spawnkill doesn't count.
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Pavonis wrote:Oh yea i think i got messed up on first time watch. So, none did spawnkilling. But still what mason's warn?ЧК. wrote:Pavonis wrote:Honestly, mason you did spawnkill and wild_hunter did not. As you can see wild killed u after u spawn and was able to run away for 5 seconds. And what you did was spawnkill he didn't even got a second to run away and you shot him. You did the same thing with me. Mason, i really would like to tell you to read the spawnkilling rules or for more knowledge check other spawnkilling reports.
You can see Wild Hunter was shooting mp5 (even if it was accident) so he technically initiated attack therefore spawnkill doesn't count.
That's what Mason has to answer for.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
WTF is going here? Once I reported Sufy for warning me and then it got denied and @Harry told me that there is not problem in being warned
That part after being warned which talks about if you thing you wrongly been warned report on the forum
I dunno why the staff manage as he likes, one day you ain't allowed to report for warn another day dealing with an admin because he warned a player.. bullshit
That part after being warned which talks about if you thing you wrongly been warned report on the forum
I dunno why the staff manage as he likes, one day you ain't allowed to report for warn another day dealing with an admin because he warned a player.. bullshit
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Blood Sucker wrote:WTF is going here? Once I reported Sufy for warning me and then it got denied and @Harry told me that there is not problem in being warned
That part after being warned which talks about if you thing you wrongly been warned report on the forum
I dunno why the staff manage as he likes, one day you ain't allowed to report for warn another day dealing with an admin because he warned a player.. bullshit
You can report the admin who accepts this report in the end, for now you are requested to not interfere.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
Well I dont think mason can do this. Btw neither good luck nor bad luck, its neutral
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
He did spawnkill before that. and I was saying verbally to everyone "don't spawnkill". That's why I warned him. Hunter you're an old player and you should be aware of that.
This VKs in latest days, No respect for admins protecting server. good job.
if anyone claims that I didn't say it then atleast signal said it:
This VKs in latest days, No respect for admins protecting server. good job.
if anyone claims that I didn't say it then atleast signal said it:
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MaSoN^ wrote:He did spawnkill before that. and I was saying verbally to everyone "don't spawnkill". That's why I warned him.
This VKs in latest days, No respect for admins protecting server. good job.
You warned him on this offense?
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
ЧК. wrote:MaSoN^ wrote:He did spawnkill before that. and I was saying verbally to everyone "don't spawnkill". That's why I warned him.
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You warned him on this offense?
He did spawnkill before that too.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
MaSoN^ wrote:He did spawnkill before that. and I was saying verbally to everyone "don't spawnkill". That's why I warned him. Hunter you're an old player and you should be aware of that.
This VKs in latest days, No respect for admins protecting server. good job.
if anyone claims that I didn't say it then atleast signal said it:
4K I wanna tell you something because you are the one who tries to get the point so if you watch first video in which I killed Mason and he considered it as a spawnkill,few of my kills were as same as in the first video but Mason considered them as spawnkills,so its not my mistake man even I got killed many times the same way
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MaSoN^ wrote:ЧК. wrote:MaSoN^ wrote:He did spawnkill before that. and I was saying verbally to everyone "don't spawnkill". That's why I warned him.
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You warned him on this offense?
He did spawnkill before that too.
So he spawnkilled in total 2 times right? One in this video he uploaded and one before that you witnessed right?
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ЧК. wrote:MaSoN^ wrote:ЧК. wrote:MaSoN^ wrote:He did spawnkill before that. and I was saying verbally to everyone "don't spawnkill". That's why I warned him.
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You warned him on this offense?
He did spawnkill before that too.
So he spawnkilled in total 2 times right? One in this video he uploaded and one before that you witnessed right?
Yes.
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MaSoN^ wrote:ЧК. wrote:MaSoN^ wrote:ЧК. wrote:MaSoN^ wrote:He did spawnkill before that. and I was saying verbally to everyone "don't spawnkill". That's why I warned him.
This VKs in latest days, No respect for admins protecting server. good job.
You warned him on this offense?
He did spawnkill before that too.
So he spawnkilled in total 2 times right? One in this video he uploaded and one before that you witnessed right?
Yes.
4K u know it's not spawnkilling
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
If you observe the first video closely you can see that I didn't shoot but moved and got shot by him while my spawn protection was enabled.
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MaSoN^ wrote:
If you observe the first video closely you can see that I didn't shoot but moved and got shot by him while my spawn protection was enabled.
You had quite a lot of time to move and if you watch first video closely you were about to shoot me,so was I supposed to wait for you to shoot me?
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MaSoN^ wrote:
If you observe the first video closely you can see that I didn't shoot but moved and got shot by him while my spawn protection was enabled.
U were about to shoot him, So what he just stand there and do nothing?
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Maxpayne^ wrote:U were about to shoot him, So what he just stand there and do nothing?MaSoN^ wrote:
If you observe the first video closely you can see that I didn't shoot but moved and got shot by him while my spawn protection was enabled.
Like I did have chance to attack. Lol.
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Sorry Mason, I got confused with you and Stylish. Yes, you didn't attack, but you did initiate attack as we can see from your crouch and shoot animation, but Wild Hunter shot you before in self defense. I understand in the situation you were it is not easy to analyze the scenerio as I did in this report so I can't blame you. But you can't blame Wild as it was his self defense so I think it was just a small misunderstanding in the hectic action. Just a minor apology to Wild should be suitable as after analyzing we can tell it wasn't spawnkilling as you did initiate attack.
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Blood Sucker wrote:WTF is going here? Once I reported Sufy for warning me and then it got denied and @Harry told me that there is not problem in being warned
That part after being warned which talks about if you thing you wrongly been warned report on the forum
I dunno why the staff manage as he likes, one day you ain't allowed to report for warn another day dealing with an admin because he warned a player.. bullshit
+1.
ЧК. wrote:Sorry Mason, I got confused with you and Stylish. Yes, you didn't attack, but you did initiate attack as we can see from your crouch and shoot animation, but Wild Hunter shot you before in self defense. I understand in the situation you were it is not easy to analyze the scenerio as I did in this report so I can't blame you. But you can't blame Wild as it was his self defense so I think it was just a small misunderstanding in the hectic action. Just a minor apology to Wild should be suitable as after analyzing we can tell it wasn't spawnkilling as you did initiate attack.
He was doing it before anyways. I ain't gonna apologize to a guy who doesn't respect me. So anyone (level 10 and above) can take action on me.
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MaSoN^ wrote:Blood Sucker wrote:WTF is going here? Once I reported Sufy for warning me and then it got denied and @Harry told me that there is not problem in being warned
That part after being warned which talks about if you thing you wrongly been warned report on the forum
I dunno why the staff manage as he likes, one day you ain't allowed to report for warn another day dealing with an admin because he warned a player.. bullshit
+1.ЧК. wrote:Sorry Mason, I got confused with you and Stylish. Yes, you didn't attack, but you did initiate attack as we can see from your crouch and shoot animation, but Wild Hunter shot you before in self defense. I understand in the situation you were it is not easy to analyze the scenerio as I did in this report so I can't blame you. But you can't blame Wild as it was his self defense so I think it was just a small misunderstanding in the hectic action. Just a minor apology to Wild should be suitable as after analyzing we can tell it wasn't spawnkilling as you did initiate attack.
He was doing it before anyways. I ain't gonna apologize to a guy who doesn't respect me. So anyone (level 10 and above) can take action on me.
Guys no need to take action no need to apologize I just want Mason to take back his warn
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WILD_HUNTER wrote:MaSoN^ wrote:Blood Sucker wrote:WTF is going here? Once I reported Sufy for warning me and then it got denied and @Harry told me that there is not problem in being warned
That part after being warned which talks about if you thing you wrongly been warned report on the forum
I dunno why the staff manage as he likes, one day you ain't allowed to report for warn another day dealing with an admin because he warned a player.. bullshit
+1.ЧК. wrote:Sorry Mason, I got confused with you and Stylish. Yes, you didn't attack, but you did initiate attack as we can see from your crouch and shoot animation, but Wild Hunter shot you before in self defense. I understand in the situation you were it is not easy to analyze the scenerio as I did in this report so I can't blame you. But you can't blame Wild as it was his self defense so I think it was just a small misunderstanding in the hectic action. Just a minor apology to Wild should be suitable as after analyzing we can tell it wasn't spawnkilling as you did initiate attack.
He was doing it before anyways. I ain't gonna apologize to a guy who doesn't respect me. So anyone (level 10 and above) can take action on me.
Guys no need to take action no need to apologize I just want Mason to take back his warn
Lol. The warns get cleared when reconnecting.
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MaSoN^ wrote:WILD_HUNTER wrote:MaSoN^ wrote:Blood Sucker wrote:WTF is going here? Once I reported Sufy for warning me and then it got denied and @Harry told me that there is not problem in being warned
That part after being warned which talks about if you thing you wrongly been warned report on the forum
I dunno why the staff manage as he likes, one day you ain't allowed to report for warn another day dealing with an admin because he warned a player.. bullshit
+1.ЧК. wrote:Sorry Mason, I got confused with you and Stylish. Yes, you didn't attack, but you did initiate attack as we can see from your crouch and shoot animation, but Wild Hunter shot you before in self defense. I understand in the situation you were it is not easy to analyze the scenerio as I did in this report so I can't blame you. But you can't blame Wild as it was his self defense so I think it was just a small misunderstanding in the hectic action. Just a minor apology to Wild should be suitable as after analyzing we can tell it wasn't spawnkilling as you did initiate attack.
He was doing it before anyways. I ain't gonna apologize to a guy who doesn't respect me. So anyone (level 10 and above) can take action on me.
Guys no need to take action no need to apologize I just want Mason to take back his warn
Lol. The warns get cleared when reconnecting.
Whatever sir I just wanted to clear myself so here it is,i did no spawnkill
@4K do what you think is best
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MaSoN^ wrote:Blood Sucker wrote:WTF is going here? Once I reported Sufy for warning me and then it got denied and @Harry told me that there is not problem in being warned
That part after being warned which talks about if you thing you wrongly been warned report on the forum
I dunno why the staff manage as he likes, one day you ain't allowed to report for warn another day dealing with an admin because he warned a player.. bullshit
+1.ЧК. wrote:Sorry Mason, I got confused with you and Stylish. Yes, you didn't attack, but you did initiate attack as we can see from your crouch and shoot animation, but Wild Hunter shot you before in self defense. I understand in the situation you were it is not easy to analyze the scenerio as I did in this report so I can't blame you. But you can't blame Wild as it was his self defense so I think it was just a small misunderstanding in the hectic action. Just a minor apology to Wild should be suitable as after analyzing we can tell it wasn't spawnkilling as you did initiate attack.
He was doing it before anyways. I ain't gonna apologize to a guy who doesn't respect me. So anyone (level 10 and above) can take action on me.
Mate, no one's reputation gets low by apologizing actually it increases. You can't deny that this 2nd offense is not spawnkill even after I explained everything. Apology is just my advice, it's your choice to take it or not. The decision on this report is not related to the apology. And I'm not denying your claim that he spawnkilled before, but you know spawnkilling rule says to take action on frequent offenses while you warned him for commiting 1 spawnkill.
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You did spawnkill , mason isn't dumb , he did right to warn you from spawnkill and yes you showing yourself doing spawnkill
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Well application is almost ended so pls dont bark here and dont be jealousFaLLeN wrote:You did spawnkill , mason isn't dumb , he did right to warn you from spawnkill and yes you showing yourself doing spawnkill
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@4K kindly lock this topic as everything is clear to avoid spamming
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You are jealous that mason joined kf and he is adminWILD_HUNTER wrote:Well application is almost ended so pls dont bark here and dont be jealousFaLLeN wrote:You did spawnkill , mason isn't dumb , he did right to warn you from spawnkill and yes you showing yourself doing spawnkill
So kindly F*ck off
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@MaSoN^ is like @WILD_HUNTER, @MaSoN^ has Spawnkill lol.FaLLeN wrote:You did spawnkill , mason isn't dumb , he did right to warn you from spawnkill and yes you showing yourself doing spawnkill
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Mason wrongfully warn WILD so MASON should have warn for no abuse ADMIN CMDSS AGAIN
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SdS.Shiragami_Youko wrote:@MaSoN^ is like @WILD_HUNTER, @MaSoN^ has Spawnkill lol.FaLLeN wrote:You did spawnkill , mason isn't dumb , he did right to warn you from spawnkill and yes you showing yourself doing spawnkill
Check videos again.
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MaSoN^ wrote:SdS.Shiragami_Youko wrote:@MaSoN^ is like @WILD_HUNTER, @MaSoN^ has Spawnkill lol.FaLLeN wrote:You did spawnkill , mason isn't dumb , he did right to warn you from spawnkill and yes you showing yourself doing spawnkill
Check videos again.
Please read my reply so the topic can be closed soon.
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There was no spawnkilling in both videos.
@MaSoN^ , @WilD_HunTer I request u to read spawn kill rule.
I can simply explain spawnkill , when U spawn and directly killed when U even don't have switched weapons and not even move is known as spawnkilling.
Video 1 = MaSoN he didn't spawnkill because U were successfully start moving and switching between weapons.
Video 2 = MaSoN didn't spawnkill U were moving and shooting successfully.
U were wrongfully warned by admin MaSoN^.
@MaSoN^ , @WilD_HunTer I request u to read spawn kill rule.
I can simply explain spawnkill , when U spawn and directly killed when U even don't have switched weapons and not even move is known as spawnkilling.
Video 1 = MaSoN he didn't spawnkill because U were successfully start moving and switching between weapons.
Video 2 = MaSoN didn't spawnkill U were moving and shooting successfully.
U were wrongfully warned by admin MaSoN^.
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Re: [Accepted] Admin report-[KFt]MaSoN^
Bad Luck,
reporting a Head Admin is gonna get you no where,
guys i ve seen latly that the numbers of reports about admins or others players have increased, i mean the report rate is increasing.
Cant we all just Learn Forgive & Forget.
ok i get it he warned you for the wrong reason or took revenge or something. But just let it go. Its a Video Game everyone loses their control once in a while.
P.S : comeon guys stop reporting on small things
reporting a Head Admin is gonna get you no where,
guys i ve seen latly that the numbers of reports about admins or others players have increased, i mean the report rate is increasing.
Cant we all just Learn Forgive & Forget.
ok i get it he warned you for the wrong reason or took revenge or something. But just let it go. Its a Video Game everyone loses their control once in a while.
P.S : comeon guys stop reporting on small things
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[KM]Helathien wrote:Bad Luck,
reporting a Head Admin is gonna get you no where,
guys i ve seen latly that the numbers of reports about admins or others players have increased, i mean the report rate is increasing.
Cant we all just Learn Forgive & Forget.
ok i get it he warned you for the wrong reason or took revenge or something. But just let it go. Its a Video Game everyone loses their control once in a while.
P.S : comeon guys stop reporting on small things
Lmao kids these days,@4K pls do something about this report otherwise these kids aren't gonna stop spamming
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I request everyone to refrain from replying to this report except Mason as I'm only waiting for his final words so the report can be solved asap.
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the first video is not a spawnkill: "If the spawned player is attacking other players after they spawn then it's an exception to the spawnkilling rule and if they are killed by another player, it won't count as spawnkilling."
i saw clearly that mason entered an attack animation before he died.
i saw clearly that mason entered an attack animation before he died.
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Rainbow Dash wrote:the first video is not a spawnkill: "If the spawned player is attacking other players after they spawn then it's an exception to the spawnkilling rule and if they are killed by another player, it won't count as spawnkilling."
i saw clearly that mason entered an attack animation before he died.
That's exactly what I was saying.
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You delete my post? U scared?MaSoN^ wrote:SdS.Shiragami_Youko wrote:@MaSoN^ is like @WILD_HUNTER, @MaSoN^ has Spawnkill lol.FaLLeN wrote:You did spawnkill , mason isn't dumb , he did right to warn you from spawnkill and yes you showing yourself doing spawnkill
Check videos again.
I was check again, I see u and @WILD_HUNTER, but u don't "Warn" u, u can check again.
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