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Post by KAKAN Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:59 am

So, well, sometimes players intentionally enable their firewall to increase their packet loss, resulting that we can't shoot them( our shots gets de-synced ), but their shots are synced well.
My question is: Can we kick such players? Take lahham for example, but he doesn't do it intentionally, but neither does he do anything for it.
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Post by Chuck Norris Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:00 am

That's called lag. If you got a good definition how to notice that someone is doing it intentionally. Be sure to suggest a rule.
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Post by KAKAN Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:04 am

Chuck Norris wrote:That's called lag. If you got a good definition how to notice that someone is doing it intentionally. Be sure to suggest a rule.
I've noticed many people doing this. But I've never kicked them since that's not a rule break here. My suggestion is to add a rule for that, if done intentionally.
The easy way to notice is to check their ping and compare it to their shot's desync. Shoot them, if the shot doesn't affect them, then they've a great packet loss.
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Post by =SdS=KrlozZ... Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:18 am

Like 5nk he was doing it intentionally :v as i understand
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Post by KAKAN Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:25 am

=SdS=KrlozZ... wrote:Like 5nk he was doing it intentionally :v as i understand
he confessed it too Mad
But, this is in the suggestion section, so, vote +1 or -1 Smile
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Post by Aegis Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:11 pm

=SdS=KrlozZ... wrote:Like 5nk he was doing it intentionally :v as i understand

You can stop crying man, I don't use it now.
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You can stop crying man, I don't use it now.

:V just an example pto

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+1, but now the question, how do we know that the player is doin it?
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Post by KAKAN Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:33 pm

KAKAN wrote:
Chuck Norris wrote:That's called lag. If you got a good definition how to notice that someone is doing it intentionally. Be sure to suggest a rule.
I've noticed many people doing this. But I've never kicked them since that's not a rule break here. My suggestion is to add a rule for that, if done intentionally.
The easy way to notice is to check their ping and compare it to their shot's desync. Shoot them, if the shot doesn't affect them, then they've a great packet loss.

MaSoN^ wrote:+1, but now the question, how do we know that the player is doin it?

Why u spammers no check all posts?
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Post by Guest Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:42 pm

kakan, what you're saying can't be true always since the there might be unintentional packet loss which is due your ISP's faulty systems or something else. What if he/she has an Antivirus which protects the client disallowing the client to turn it off or on through windows firewall. In my eyes, this is totally not a legit reason to kick someone for packet loss. However, If there is some actual way for the server to check for the client's "Discarded bytes" If the discarded bytes are above 10000 then kick dat bich.

The other ways to check for packet loss:
1. Most of you guys might've noticed that fellas who spawn in a custom prop spawn in their default skin spawning position instead of spawning at the custom prop's given spawn point that is packet loss you can take it as an instance of packet loss.
2. Sometimes you see a player teleporting to your position but they don't show up after the timer goes off that is another example of packet loss. There are multiple instances of packet loss in-game I think I've described the two most perceptible packet loss issues.
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Omg @Signal B*tch stop to use it
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Post by Zatch Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:45 am

packet loss, that name bring me a lot of memories of 2011. In an old server called SC there was a player called Edi (ex-OSK) who had a lot of issues with many players about that topic. This man was almost untouchable for this kind of problem. After that, some admins of that server looked out that problem and finally they banned him. I thought that issue won't be a problem anymore in the future, i was wrong. +1
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Post by Lahhami^ Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:51 am

KAKAN wrote:So, well, sometimes players intentionally enable their firewall to increase their packet loss, resulting that we can't shoot them( our shots gets de-synced ), but their shots are synced well.
My question is: Can we kick such players? Take lahham for example, but he doesn't do it intentionally, but neither does he do anything for it.
Omg , you took me an example ? that's called lag nub Razz .
, want info about how i did i played ? i am using WIFI Card (tenda) with medium service , CoreI5,Ram8, i downloaded the game then installed VCMP , what else i dont the hell know about , as you siad KAKAN , even if have the something That you are talking about , i doesn't do it intentionally , but guess what , my firewall Disabled since long time , so am clean guy broda not like other's .
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Post by KAKAN Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:07 am

[EK]Lahham^ wrote:
KAKAN wrote:So, well, sometimes players intentionally enable their firewall to increase their packet loss, resulting that we can't shoot them( our shots gets de-synced ), but their shots are synced well.
My question is: Can we kick such players? Take lahham for example, but he doesn't do it intentionally, but neither does he do anything for it.
Omg , you took me an example ?  that's called lag nub Razz .
, want info about how i did i played ? i am using WIFI Card (tenda) with medium service , CoreI5,Ram8, i downloaded the game then installed VCMP ,  what else i dont the hell know about , as you siad KAKAN , even if have the something That you are talking about , i doesn't do it intentionally , but guess what , my firewall Disabled since long time , so am clean guy broda not like other's .  
Mate, using a WiFi card, you're increasing your packet loss.
Technically, the chances are very low, but still...
There's a reason why BIG BIG VERY BIG servers use Fibre Optics or Ethernet( very OLD servers use it ). Google for more.
Using WiFi, if something blocks the connection between your WiFi signal and your PC( take aluminium foil for ex ), your packets might get lost. And that's what will cause your so called "lag".
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Post by Lahhami^ Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:35 am

KAKAN wrote:
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KAKAN wrote:So, well, sometimes players intentionally enable their firewall to increase their packet loss, resulting that we can't shoot them( our shots gets de-synced ), but their shots are synced well.
My question is: Can we kick such players? Take lahham for example, but he doesn't do it intentionally, but neither does he do anything for it.
Omg , you took me an example ?  that's called lag nub Razz .
, want info about how i did i played ? i am using WIFI Card (tenda) with medium service , CoreI5,Ram8, i downloaded the game then installed VCMP ,  what else i dont the hell know about , as you siad KAKAN , even if have the something That you are talking about , i doesn't do it intentionally , but guess what , my firewall Disabled since long time , so am clean guy broda not like other's .  
Mate, using a WiFi card, you're increasing your packet loss.
Technically, the chances are very low, but still...
There's a reason why BIG BIG VERY BIG servers use Fibre Optics or Ethernet( very OLD servers use it ). Google for more.
Using WiFi, if something blocks the connection between your WiFi signal and your PC( take aluminium foil for ex ), your packets might get lost. And that's what will cause your so called "lag".
dont tell me you also not lagging sometime's , also my ping sometime's good and sometime's not , that moment when we duel/pratice/fight it was with good ping , i won't duel/play with lag cuz its sux and peaple and start dispear , i used many WIFI cards , but best Card iz TENDA , fast internet  , if you give me some real cash i will use Ethernet , am poor guy , deal with it
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Ethernet is cheaper than WiFi ROFL XDDD
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KAKAN wrote:Ethernet is cheaper than WiFi ROFL XDDD
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it depend's , my room is too far from my router(if i think about cable) , so i need long Ethernet cable , acually the world upgrading today(development) by using WIFI Card not cable's ,   gemme the HolyGodDamnMoney then this issue will be closed , else deal with it , send me 500k then i will fix it easily , i gave you 24 hour's to pay .
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Jajaja xD omg 500k rip kakan yay !
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Post by KAKAN Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:29 am

...... I never wanted this to go that far lol. Lahham, google for more info, stop asking me....
A 30m cable costs around 6-10$, while adding WiFi to both the shits for a 30m range costs around 20$. I don't know how that's cheap Very Happy It can be if you're in different rooms, but, you shouldn't be, since the wall would be blocking away the radiation...
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Post by Lahhami^ Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:47 am

KAKAN wrote:...... I never wanted this to go that far lol. Lahham, google for more info, stop asking me....
A 30m cable costs around 6-10$, while adding WiFi to both the shits for a 30m range costs around 20$. I don't know how that's cheap Very Happy It can be if you're in different rooms, but, you shouldn't be, since the wall would be blocking away the radiation...
acaully i dont need to google it cuz i already made Proposal's for how much cost "cable" , in my country it cost 50$ , From our standard of living its too much , so buying WIFI Card 10-20$ more cheap than Cable For Ethernet , its our standard of living , maybe cuz you nerd rich/prosperous you can get it easily , Cable'sIzShit , Yes to WIFI card ! cheers , also it help for the Appearance of house/room .

also , i dont ask you as you said "stop asking me" , am clarify thing's not more(like always) , you made a fault by mentioning me on example xD , that's all , send cash or say goodbye to yourFriend's xD
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Post by Aegis Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:45 pm

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Chuck Norris wrote:That's called lag. If you got a good definition how to notice that someone is doing it intentionally. Be sure to suggest a rule.
I've noticed many people doing this. But I've never kicked them since that's not a rule break here. My suggestion is to add a rule for that, if done intentionally.
The easy way to notice is to check their ping and compare it to their shot's desync. Shoot them, if the shot doesn't affect them, then they've a great packet loss.

MaSoN^ wrote:+1, but now the question, how do we know that the player is doin it?

Why u spammers no check all posts?

He means how do we know if the player is INTENTIONALLY doing it.
(BTW I gave +1 for a rule, not a server based auto kicker)
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Post by Guest Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:01 pm

I did enable my firewall but nothing happen also disabled GTA Vice City from programs allowed by firewall and still normal.

My question is: Can you tell how they do it? If you don't want it to get spread then tell me in PM...
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Post by =SdS=KrlozZ... Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:04 am

its not GTA Vice city, its called vcmp server, or vcmp -sr something like that, remove from the firewall
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Post by Sha|R|abI^ Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:25 am

Yeah Thats True sometimes happened with me
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