[Closed] Disable driveby for custom vehicles?

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I am tired of making the decision on difficult changes. Because I always get the blame for it and there is too many things to keep track of. I have decided to create a section where we all vote on it instead. You need to follow the format.



Format
You're allowed to post the votes of other people too if that person doesn't have a forum account and is a regular on VKs. You must include information about this topic and what they would vote.

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[b]Name: [/b]
[b]Vote: [/b]
[b]Why you voted this way: [/b]

Topic
Disable driveby for custom vehicles? Please vote


Yes votes


No votes
Shafin - He is a noob without driveby.

Neutral/majority

Name: Shafin/Skullcandy
Vote: No
Why you voted this way: Cuz I am noob without driveby. I use driveby when my ping spikes to kill noobs. When you kill a noob using normal combat with 400+ ping or 300+ ping that noob wont gonna get damage from normal combat so that's why I want driveby.

Name: I am cookie.
Vote: No.
Why you voted this way: Drive-by is also a skill ok. Some players prefer Drive-by some players foot. Without drive-byers there is no fun in VKs .

Name: Celestia
Vote: No
Why you voted this way:
Removing it will kinda ruin the motivation of (especially new) players to work for custom vehs since driveby is an important part of bikes & cars. If it got removed, we can not even self-defence when under other players' attack while driving custom vehs. Take me as example, if it got removed, I will seldom use custom vehs and will never be as interested in unlocking new ones as before.

The current anti-driveby system has already made it easy for players to avoid drivebyers and destroy their vehs. Therefore, it's very rare to see a pure drivebyer get 10+ spree nowadays. So I don't think adding further restrictions on driveby is necessary.

b]Name: [/b] Helathien
Vote: No
Why you voted this way: Dont see a reason why you would disable it. The driveby system has already been nerfed to the point its better to fight on foot.

I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TURNING OFF CUSTOM PROP VEH LIKE AUTARCH FASTEST CAR NOT WORLD 1 VEH
WORLD 1 VEH DRIVE BY WONT BE DISABLED
ALRIGHT? NOW VOTE WISELY

Name: [EK]3more.
Vote: Yes
Why you voted this way: we accept to have drive by system , but with a car that you cant even aim at while it's moving and it can push other cars easily? no that's super OP and unacceptable for a dm-ing - even it's not pure - environment. specially for new players. and to be honest most of who voted & will vote no don't even have the drive by " skill * to use normal vehs. they just want the OP power of a car with low chances to escape / destroy. if it's not removed then the server will be totally terrible for DM. I know wen can use props to DM , but why can't they use drive by in props too? everyone must get the right to have a fair gameplay in main world in my opinion

3more wrote:Name: [EK]3more.
Vote: Yes
Why you voted this way: we accept to have drive by system , but with a car that you cant even aim at while it's moving and it can push other cars easily? no that's super OP and unacceptable for a dm-ing - even it's not pure - environment. specially for new players. and to be honest most of who voted & will vote no don't even have the drive by " skill * to use normal vehs. they just want the OP power of a car with low chances to escape / destroy. if it's not removed then the server will be totally terrible for DM. I know wen can use props to DM , but why can't they use drive by in props too? everyone must get the right to have a fair gameplay in main world in my opinion

^

SparkeR wrote:

3more wrote:Name: [EK]3more.
Vote: Yes
Why you voted this way: we accept to have drive by system , but with a car that you cant even aim at while it's moving and it can push other cars easily? no that's super OP and unacceptable for a dm-ing - even it's not pure - environment. specially for new players. and to be honest most of who voted & will vote no don't even have the drive by " skill * to use normal vehs. they just want the OP power of a car with low chances to escape / destroy. if it's not removed then the server will be totally terrible for DM. I know wen can use props to DM , but why can't they use drive by in props too? everyone must get the right to have a fair gameplay in main world in my opinion

^

Idiot spammer.

Pavonis wrote:

SparkeR wrote:

3more wrote:Name: [EK]3more.
Vote: Yes
Why you voted this way: we accept to have drive by system , but with a car that you cant even aim at while it's moving and it can push other cars easily? no that's super OP and unacceptable for a dm-ing - even it's not pure - environment. specially for new players. and to be honest most of who voted & will vote no don't even have the drive by " skill * to use normal vehs. they just want the OP power of a car with low chances to escape / destroy. if it's not removed then the server will be totally terrible for DM. I know wen can use props to DM , but why can't they use drive by in props too? everyone must get the right to have a fair gameplay in main world in my opinion

^

Idiot spammer.

Nerd i was telling that my vote is same and i agree with that points u nub

Name: [F2]MeLoDy^/=F2=Tekno.
Vote: No.
Why you voted this way: I don't think it gonn be work to disable the drive-by system only on custom vehs rather than other w1 vehs. If you can't escape from drive-by killing, then spawn your own autarch and defend yo self in the same way PEW PEW! It's actually it's fun!

Name:[EK]PsychedelliC.
Vote:No
Why you voted this way:Well it's an fun thing to do with mates whenever you are feeling lonely like you are alone and just type /getpropcar and start killing some players so you can earn some cash etc.

Name: [RT]ShadowJacK.
Vote: No
Why you voted this way: You have already made so many changes on drive-by system and it almost very difficult to hunt and kill players through drive-by except using autorach car. I would suggest to revert some changes that you made in past and make disable using drive-by to kill players through Autorach and White & big F1 racing car because those cars are very OP.

Nick: [kf]shy
Vote: Yes
Why you voted that way: good for vks health and too op......

Name: =SdS=KrlozZ...
Vote: No
Why you voted this way:
I think its part of the server and i would not like we change it, as celestia said its the unique ways the new players can play to kill pros to keep it balanced

Name: [EK]Dark_Abdo
Vote: No (except for autarch)
Why you voted this way: It's not really hard to kill someone driving a vehicle but it's pretty hard to kill someone driving an autarch so, change the autarch's speed as Mason told you before or disable drive-by in autarch.

Name: [KF]EZi0^LT
Vote: YES CLOSE EVERYTHING
Why you voted this way: Cuz there are many kids annoying me.

Name: Emma/Rainbow_Dash
Vote: neutral/going with majority
Why you voted this way: i cant really make up my mind i want the best for the server sorry sparker cant just vote yes or no xd.

Name: Sven
Vote: Neutral
Why you voted this way: Don't know what a custom vehicle is.

Name: =EK=SmoKe.
Vote: No
Why you voted this way:

=SdS=Celestia wrote:
Removing it will kinda ruin the motivation of (especially new) players to work for custom vehs since driveby is an important part of bikes & cars. If it got removed, we can not even self-defence when under other players' attack while driving custom vehs. Take me as example, if it got removed, I will seldom use custom vehs and will never be as interested in unlocking new ones as before.

The current anti-driveby system has already made it easy for players to avoid drivebyers and destroy their vehs. Therefore, it's very rare to see a pure drivebyer get 10+ spree nowadays. So I don't think adding further restrictions on driveby is necessary.

Votes so far

Yes (4)
3more - Custom vehicles are overpowered
Sparker - Agrees with 3more
Shy - Overpowered
Ezio - Getting rekt by drive-by

No (10)
Shafin - Noob withour drive-by
Pavonis - Drive-by is a skill
Celestia - Motivates new players, anti-driveby is enough
Helathian - Has been nerfed
Melody - Having a challenge is fun
Psych - It's fun to do
Jack - It's already difficult to use drive-by with world 1 vehicles
Krlozzzzzz - It's part of the server
Darkabdo - Not hard to kill someone in a vehicle, except Autrach
SmoKe - Agrees with Celestia


Neutral/Majority (2)
Emma - Wants best for the sever
Sven - Doesn't know about custom vehicles

3more wrote:Name: [EK]3more.
Vote: Yes
Why you voted this way: we accept to have drive by system , but with a car that you cant even aim at while it's moving and it can push other cars easily? no that's super OP and unacceptable for a dm-ing - even it's not pure - environment. specially for new players. and to be honest most of who voted & will vote no don't even have the drive by " skill * to use normal vehs. they just want the OP power of a car with low chances to escape / destroy. if it's not removed then the server will be totally terrible for DM. I know wen can use props to DM , but why can't they use drive by in props too? everyone must get the right to have a fair gameplay in main world in my opinion

I am totally agree it destroyed the DM un the server.
No wandering that VKs have less count players cause of it.

Name: [KF]Gax
Vote: Yes
Why you voted this way: Custom cars with such speed is hard to destroy especially if the person inside it is lagging, It'll give him a big advantage and free kills...

also the Driveby is bad experience anyway, considering that all vcmp servers has blocked it, it's bad experience for the newbies, i mean if they got used to it and went to some dm prop or went to another server which has no driveby, they won't be able to do anything against others, and they'll stay newbies forever...

Name: =EK=4K.
Vote: Yes.
Why you voted this way: Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. Especially with the ridiculous speeds of some vehicles and lag, it's near impossible for someone on foot to kill the drivebyer. We already have drive by on normal vehicles and that should be enough, you can't shift the equality in favor of newbies because it will be less fair for experienced DMers. There needs to be a balance and that does not mean to keep giving advantages to newbies so they can beat experienced players who've trained for years.

Name: KF.D4rKR420R
Vote: Yes
Why you voted this way:

ЧК. wrote:Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. Especially with the ridiculous speedscof some vehicles and lag, it's near impossible for someone on foot to kill the drivebyer. We already have drive by on normal vehicles and tjat should be enough, you can't shift the equality in favor of newbies because it will be less fair for experienced DMers. There needs to be a balance and that does not mean to keep giving advantages to newbies so they can beat experienced players who've trained for years.

ЧК. wrote:Name: =EK=4K.
Vote: Yes.
Why you voted this way: Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. Especially with the ridiculous speeds of some vehicles and lag, it's near impossible for someone on foot to kill the drivebyer. We already have drive by on normal vehicles and that should be enough, you can't shift the equality in favor of newbies because it will be less fair for experienced DMers. There needs to be a balance and that does not mean to keep giving advantages to newbies so they can beat experienced players who've trained for years.

+Its really irritating when players use that custom vehicles to kill you and it becomes difficult to destroy that because of their  high speed-
VOTE - YES

Name: [EK]Sparrow^
Vote: Yes.

ЧК. wrote:Why you voted this way: Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. Especially with the ridiculous speeds of some vehicles and lag, it's near impossible for someone on foot to kill the drivebyer. We already have drive by on normal vehicles and that should be enough, you can't shift the equality in favor of newbies because it will be less fair for experienced DMers. There needs to be a balance and that does not mean to keep giving advantages to newbies so they can beat experienced players who've trained for years.

Name: Aegis
Vote: Yes

ЧК. wrote: Why you voted this way: Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. Especially with the ridiculous speeds of some vehicles and lag, it's near impossible for someone on foot to kill the drivebyer. We already have drive by on normal vehicles and that should be enough, you can't shift the equality in favor of newbies because it will be less fair for experienced DMers. There needs to be a balance and that does not mean to keep giving advantages to newbies so they can beat experienced players who've trained for years.

I will just note to everyone that in the end, I will make the decision. I will make the decision based on your in-game activity how much your vote is worth. I am seeing a few people here that I haven't seen in-game for a long time and those people's vote will of course not count as well.

Some admins might be an exception of course because they are still considered valuable since they are in the staff (but most admins are active). Basically what I am saying is that I still value 4K's opinion even though he is not active that much on the server and it's purely subjective. However, I will make any drastic decisions if we got 50/50. So please continue to vote.


Votes so far

Yes (11)
3more - Custom vehicles are overpowered
Sparker - Agrees with 3more
Shy - Overpowered
Ezio - Getting rekt by drive-by
Mo - Destroys DM of the server
Gax - Hard to kill people inside those fast vehicles especially if they lag!
4K - Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. With it's ridiculous speed + Lag it's near impossible to hit someone.
DarkRazor - Same reason as 4K
Top - Same reason as 4K
Sparrow - Same reason as 4k
aegis - Same reason as 4k

ONLY for autrach (1)
Darkabdo - Not hard to kill someone in a vehicle, except Autrach

No (9)
Shafin - Noob withour drive-by
Pavonis - Drive-by is a skill
Celestia - Motivates new players, anti-driveby is enough
Helathian - Has been nerfed
Melody - Having a challenge is fun
Psych - It's fun to do
Jack - It's already difficult to use drive-by with world 1 vehicles
Krlozzzzzz - It's part of the server
SmoKe - Agrees with Celestia


Neutral/Majority (2)
Emma - Wants best for the sever
Sven - Doesn't know about custom vehicles

Continue voting please this issue is very tied.

Name: QaisAla
Vote: No
Why you voted this way: I said it like a million times, VKs server IS A FREEROAM SERVER! THE PLAYER HAS THE FREEEDOM TO DO WHATEVER THE HECK HE WANTS!! not like EC or LW where all i have to do is DMing.
And driveby plays a big roll in the server and that's why VKs server is a unique server, compared with other freeroam servers where they copy LW or EC which means you can't driveby. And disable it on custom vehicles is a joke. Because i usually killing people with driveby using a custom vehicle. Also, Angel tried his best to make driveby a little more challenging example: Killing 5 players using driveby, you will appear on the radar, you can't hide yourself on the radar, you can't /fix your vehicle and your vehicle health will reach below 500.

And i agree with Abdo, If you want to disable it on a custom vehicle, Only disable it on the Autrach

Name: Doraemon
Vote: No
Why you voted this way: Bruh, Listen if you will disable everything from the server then Everyone will have no interest in this server 60% players and newbie players use driveby only because they don't have good fighting skills at the beginning if you will disable driveby then newbie won't have anything to kill players and they will leave And vks is a freedom server not a LW Server please i request you to don't disable everything they are a part of vks

Name: [RT]MaSoN^
Vote: Yes for custom vehicles that have OP mass, acceleration and top speed. RC vehicles too.
Why you voted this way:

Like most people said it's overpowered, gives you a huge advantage over players. In RC vehicles case the vehicles are kinda hard to hit maybe some players who were in such situations can explain.

Name: =SdS=[A]luCar[D]^
Vote: no
Why you voted this way: It would not make sense without driveby if some player tries to destroy you the custom car, it would also lose reputation, bone damage less noob players thanks to driveby there are noob players

Doraemon wrote:Name: Doraemon
Vote: No
Why you voted this way: Bruh, Listen if you will disable everything from the server then Everyone will have no interest in this server 60% players and newbie players use driveby only because they don't have good fighting skills at the beginning if you will disable driveby then newbie won't have anything to kill players and they will leave And vks is a freedom server not a LW Server please i request you to don't disable everything they are a part of vks

It is only for prop cars nub doraemon

Last Bump i guess
Angel will come with a decision anytime so vote .....

The results are unfortunately too tied for me to make a decision still. I will now make an attempt to label the votes after the players activity and how much they contribute to the community and ... it probably didn't help at all

Votes so far

Yes from extremely activity members or valuable community members (6)
3more - Custom vehicles are overpowered
Sparker - Agrees with 3more
Mo - Destroys DM of the server
4K - Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. With it's ridiculous speed + Lag it's near impossible to hit someone.
DarkRazor - Same reason as 4K
Sparrow - Same reason as 4k



Yes from the rest (6)
These labels are based on my own subjective opinion. I can of course be wrong and this votes will change. I will ask trusted players about the activity of these players before making the final decision.

mason - Huge advantage with their high speed. (Doesn't regularly play on the server anymore)
Shy - Overpowered (I don't see you in-game that often at least when I am awake.)
Ezio - Getting rekt by drive-by (I don't see you in-game that often at least when I am awake.)
Gax - Hard to kill people inside those fast vehicles especially if they lag! (I don't see you in-game that often at least when I am awake.)
aegis - Same reason as 4k (I don't see you in-game that often for me to at least call you extremely active at least when I am awake.)
Top - Same reason as 4K (I hardly see you in-game)

ONLY for autrach (1)
Darkabdo - Not hard to kill someone in a vehicle, except Autrach

No extremely activity members or valuable community members (6)
Qais - freedom server (You are not very active to be honest and haven't seen you play in ages, but you've done so much for this community that your opinion is worth more
Pavonis - Drive-by is a skill
Celestia - Motivates new players, anti-driveby is enough
Melody - Having a challenge is fun (Your a little of a troll if I remember from past events where you convinced people a staff member was dead, however you are extremely active so I am still placing you here, but since your answer isn't very good your vote might be slightly less worth it but not by much.)
Psych - It's fun to do (I am not 100 % sure you belong here in this column and your reason is a little bad lol, but we'll see)
Jack - It's already difficult to use drive-by with world 1 vehicles

No rest (5)
Helathian - Has been nerfed (I don't think you've played for ages nerd so whether not this is disabled or not will have minimum impact on you. )
Dora - Seem to think we are disabling driveby? It's only for custom vehicles. (Recently came back)
Shafin - Noob withour drive-by (Not sure about your activity, when we got different timezones)
Krlozzzzzz - It's part of the server (Your activity in-game is at the minimum requirement)
SmoKe - Agrees with Celestia (Your activity in-game is at the minimum requirement)



Neutral/Majority (2)
Emma - Wants best for the sever
Sven - Doesn't know about custom vehicles

Name: =SdS=SupeR^DaviD*
Vote: No.
Why you voted this way: We need custom vehs, even Autrach to kill newbies/drivebyers escaping on PCJ600 or Chair. Chair has a very high speed, without Autrach it will be impossible to kill newbies on that. Newbies will lose interest buying these custom vehs, and some players will leave if you competely remove driveby from these vehs. Maybe the problem is only with the Autrach, but removing Driveby is not the right nerf for it. Just reduce it's mass and it will be nerfed enough, or increase the collision damage multipiler.

I guess I'm late but still

Name: =EK=UmaR^
Vote: Yes
Why you voted this way:

ЧК. wrote:Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. Especially with the ridiculous speedscof some vehicles and lag, it's near impossible for someone on foot to kill the drivebyer. We already have drive by on normal vehicles and tjat should be enough, you can't shift the equality in favor of newbies because it will be less fair for experienced DMers. There needs to be a balance and that does not mean to keep giving advantages to newbies so they can beat experienced players who've trained for years.

Name: SdS.Frozen
Vote: No.
Why you voted this way: Actually, I am really against whole drive by, but why I am against drive-by: It's simple, I don't know how to use drive by, and be expert in it. Same is the case with other experienced players who know best in DMing with weapons, but there are some players who are experienced but still use Drive-by, that's because they like to have fun in Drive-by instead of DMing with weapons.

About removing drive by from custom vehicles, I don't think it will be a wise choice to do it so. Decreasing over-powered custom vehicles health, will be pretty nice than disabling drive by in it. It's not very hard to destroy a custom vehicle, if you use your mind.

Votes so far

Yes from extremely activity members or valuable community members (7)
Umar - Same reason as 4K
3more - Custom vehicles are overpowered
Sparker - Agrees with 3more
Mo - Destroys DM of the server
4K - Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. With it's ridiculous speed + Lag it's near impossible to hit someone.
DarkRazor - Same reason as 4K
Sparrow - Same reason as 4k



Yes from the rest (6)
These labels are based on my own subjective opinion. I can of course be wrong and this votes will change. I will ask trusted players about the activity of these players before making the final decision.

mason - Huge advantage with their high speed. (Doesn't regularly play on the server anymore)
Shy - Overpowered (I don't see you in-game that often at least when I am awake.)
Ezio - Getting rekt by drive-by (I don't see you in-game that often at least when I am awake.)
Gax - Hard to kill people inside those fast vehicles especially if they lag! (I don't see you in-game that often at least when I am awake.)
aegis - Same reason as 4k (I don't see you in-game that often for me to at least call you extremely active at least when I am awake.)
Top - Same reason as 4K (I hardly see you in-game)

ONLY for autrach (1)
Darkabdo - Not hard to kill someone in a vehicle, except Autrach

No extremely activity members or valuable community members (7)
Frozen - Suggests we decrease the health instead of disabling.
Qais - freedom server (You are not very active to be honest and haven't seen you play in ages, but you've done so much for this community that your opinion is worth more
Pavonis - Drive-by is a skill
Celestia - Motivates new players, anti-driveby is enough
Melody - Having a challenge is fun (Your a little of a troll if I remember from past events where you convinced people a staff member was dead, however you are extremely active so I am still placing you here, but since your answer isn't very good your vote might be slightly less worth it but not by much.)
Psych - It's fun to do (I am not 100 % sure you belong here in this column and your reason is a little bad lol, but we'll see)
Jack - It's already difficult to use drive-by with world 1 vehicles

No rest (6)
SuperDavid - Need it for killing newbies, is a very weak reason... newbies are easy to kill.
Helathian - Has been nerfed (I don't think you've played for ages nerd so whether not this is disabled or not will have minimum impact on you. )
Dora - Seem to think we are disabling driveby? It's only for custom vehicles. (Recently came back)
Shafin - Noob withour drive-by (Not sure about your activity, when we got different timezones)
Krlozzzzzz - It's part of the server (Your activity in-game is at the minimum requirement)
SmoKe - Agrees with Celestia (Your activity in-game is at the minimum requirement)



Neutral/Majority (2)
Emma - Wants best for the sever
Sven - Doesn't know about custom vehicles

Those who are thinking that drive by is being disabled, you're wrong. You can do driveby with default vehicles. Only custom vehicles will be blocked since they are over powered (e.g Autrach)

Addressing those, you mentioned that Newbies won't be attracted (celestia and those who quoted him) and super David:
A newbie player cannot buy Autrach directly. I've seen new players doing driveby using PCJ only and they have their advantage. After introduction of Autrach, they are followed and killed now. You believe disabling driveby for custom vehs will not motivate them however, disabling will motivate them as if we want to kill him, we'll probably use a similar car to driveby him thus evenly matched. Disabling driveby for custom vehs actually makes noobs more powerful so a better challenge.

We can still kill those noobs with normal vehs like PCJ and Cheetah, Hotring. It's not compulsory that they can only be killed by Autrach

I'd like to change my vote to yes. One of the biggest problem with this is that a new and inexperienced player can easily get up to the levels of an experienced player who has spent many years mastering his techniques. Still, players like I have the experience to easily be able to behead any person in a car with almost any angle. However, with the speed, agility and mass of some of the added custom vehicles, it really makes a battle between an old player and a new one quite even, which is unfair. As 4K. said, it doesn't take 1/10 of the time taken for a player to be seen as experienced player, as it does for one to get an Autrach. The Autrach is way easier to obtain then DM skills.

The other problem is regarding the players using the Autrach. They'll develop a habit of using overpowered vehicles and drive-by, and when they go to other servers, or find themselves in a face to face battle, they'll find out that they are able to do nothing. This will increase the time it takes for them to learn by a lot, or even eradicate the chance to do so.

I've noticed that some of you are directly referring to the Autrach, however the FMJ, Fast Bike and the Aventador are overpowered as well. However, I don't suggest removing drive-by from the rest of the custom vehicles.

The current votes seem pretty even, but I don't think there are many more votes coming.

Votes so far

Yes (12)
3more - Custom vehicles are overpowered
Sparker - Agrees with 3more
Shy - Overpowered
Ezio - Getting rekt by drive-by
Mo - Destroys DM of the server
Gax - Hard to kill people inside those fast vehicles especially if they lag!
4K - Even if someone worked hard to get a custom vehicle, it does not mean they should get a DM advantage. With it's ridiculous speed + Lag it's near impossible to hit someone.
DarkRazor - Same reason as 4K.
Top - Same reason as 4K.
Sparrow - Same reason as 4K.
aegis - Same reason as 4K.
Umar - Agrees with 4K.

Only for (Autrach, FMJ, Aventador) (4)
Darkabdo - Not hard to kill someone in a vehicle, except Autrach
Qais - VKs is a free-roam server
Mason - It's overpowered
Smoke - It gives people a huge advantage, slows down learning DM, gaining skills is way harder than gaining vehicles, Agrees with 4K.

No (11)
Shafin - Noob withour drive-by
Pavonis - Drive-by is a skill
Celestia - Motivates new players, anti-driveby is enough
Helathian - Has been nerfed
Melody - Having a challenge is fun
Psych - It's fun to do
Jack - It's already difficult to use drive-by with world 1 vehicles
Krlozzzzzz - It's part of the server
Doraemon - 60% players use drive-by
Allucard - It would not make sense
Frozen - Doesn't know how to use drive-by


Neutral/Majority (2)
Emma - Wants best for the sever
Sven - Doesn't know about custom vehicles[/quote]

Name: Pro
Vote: No
Why you voted this way: lolll bros have some mercy on newbies. you nnubs only think about yourself. let other newbies use drive by to kill others like you guys torture them killing them everytime , not even letting them play freely.

Sherlock wrote:Name: nub
Vote: No
Why you voted this way: lolll bros have some mercy on newbies. you nnubs only think about yourself. let other newbies use drive by to kill others like you guys torture them killing them everytime , not even letting them play freely.

This isn't a discussion on disabling drive-by or not, it's a discussion on disabling drive-by on custom vehicles. With overpowered custom vehicles, they're getting overpowered privileges, and taking it away wont take away their freedom. They can still use drive-by with normal vehicles.

薄霧. wrote:
With overpowered custom vehicles, they're getting overpowered privileges They can still use drive-by with normal vehicles.

hey bro listen: what about you guys using "overpowered skills" won't this make other newbies feel annoyed ? there are many ways to kill players using custom vehicles for driveby if you use your 300 iq you can take that fast freaking autracth aurtch whatever the vehicle name is............. .

is this a freeroam server?

Sherlock wrote:

薄霧. wrote:
With overpowered custom vehicles, they're getting overpowered privileges They can still use drive-by with normal vehicles.

hey bro listen: what about you guys using "overpowered skills" won't this make other newbies feel annoyed ? there are many ways to kill players using custom vehicles for driveby if you use your 300 iq you can take that fast freaking autracth aurtch whatever the vehicle name is............. .

Skills take years to develop, and require practise to maintain. New players will only learn if they're given a challenge. If you sit them in an Autrach, they'll stay new players for their entire life. Don't you want players to learn? I don't have any idea what you said in your last sentence though.

薄霧. wrote:

Sherlock wrote:

薄霧. wrote:
With overpowered custom vehicles, they're getting overpowered privileges They can still use drive-by with normal vehicles.

hey bro listen: what about you guys using "overpowered skills" won't this make other newbies feel annoyed ? there are many ways to kill players using custom vehicles for driveby if you use your 300 iq you can take that fast freaking autracth aurtch whatever the vehicle name is............. .

Skills take years to develop, and require practise to maintain. New players will only learn if they're given a challenge. If you sit them in an Autrach, they'll stay new players for their entire life. Don't you want players to learn? I don't have any idea what you said in your last sentence though.

my question is why everyone wants to disable custom vehicles for driveby vks is a freedom server and there are a lot of server without these things you can play them for example: LW and EC

Doraemon wrote:

薄霧. wrote:

Sherlock wrote:

薄霧. wrote:
With overpowered custom vehicles, they're getting overpowered privileges They can still use drive-by with normal vehicles.

hey bro listen: what about you guys using "overpowered skills" won't this make other newbies feel annoyed ? there are many ways to kill players using custom vehicles for driveby if you use your 300 iq you can take that fast freaking autracth aurtch whatever the vehicle name is............. .

Skills take years to develop, and require practise to maintain. New players will only learn if they're given a challenge. If you sit them in an Autrach, they'll stay new players for their entire life. Don't you want players to learn? I don't have any idea what you said in your last sentence though.

my question is why everyone wants to disable custom vehicles for driveby vks is a freedom server and there are a lot of server without these things you can play them for example: LW and EC

What do you mean VKs is a freedom server? Would you like to repeatedly get killed by overpowered weapons such as the destroyer, without giving you a chance to run? Letting drive-by remain on the Autrach is similar to releasing the Destroyer for the public. Next you'll ask for homing missiles attached to cars, which costs $1m. Don't you realise that if stuff like this stays, for which we'll have to go to EC or LW, no one will play VKs?