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by **Pavonis** Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:23 am

The system we have now is literally bad, tbh. Please make the /goto or /gotoloc as like if someone uses it and they get damaged teleportation will be canceled. Also, add something that will detect HP before his /goto or /gotoloc cos players should not be able to teleporting less than 30 health.
BTW, also make them not freeze cos if he see someone approaching for him then he don't need to be standing and watching himself die and when he runs teleportation canceled Razz

. So, it will be fair for both Attacker and runner.

by S. Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:25 am

by **UmaR** Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:26 am

I remember angel doing a close approach on it.

by 薄霧. Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:30 am

It'd be better if instead of being frozen, a player has to stand still for three seconds to avoid people getting killed when teleporting. If a player doesn't stand still for three full seconds, the teleportation gets canceled.

by **Pavonis** Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:32 am

K2. wrote:It'd be better if instead of being frozen, a player has to stand still for three seconds to avoid people getting killed when teleporting. If a player doesn't stand still for three full seconds, the teleportation gets canceled.

Read again, bro. :V

by **=SdS=Celestia** Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:37 am

I like the current system.

What if you are drowning or falling (for example, exitprop from prop100), so pavo' s system is bad.

by **Pavonis** Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:41 am

Celestia wrote:I like the current system.

What if you are drowning or falling (for example, exitprop from prop100), so pavo' s system is bad.

It won't bother drowning or falling bro.

by **=SdS=Celestia** Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:50 am

Pavonis wrote:
Celestia wrote:I like the current system.

What if you are drowning or falling (for example, exitprop from prop100), so pavo' s system is bad.
It won't bother drowning or falling bro.

Drowning: Without being frozen, you keep losing hp and die. Plus, with your hp keep decreasing while in water, how can you teleport with your system?

Falling: You are falling = keep moving. So according to your system, you can't teleport until you land.

Change the current TP system to yours will ruin the gameplay of VKs old players.

by 薄霧. Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:52 am

Celestia wrote:
Pavonis wrote:
Celestia wrote:I like the current system.

What if you are drowning or falling (for example, exitprop from prop100), so pavo' s system is bad.
It won't bother drowning or falling bro.
Drowning: Without being frozen, you keep losing hp and die. Plus, with your hp keep decreasing while in water, how can you teleport with your system?

Falling: You are falling = keep moving. So according to your system, you can't teleport until you land.

Change the current TP system to yours will ruin the gameplay of old players.

You're correct, but what if players get teleported to a location when they leave any property. For example, anyone who leaves any property gets teleported to the spawn location.

by **=SdS=Celestia** Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:08 am

K2. wrote:
Celestia wrote:
Pavonis wrote:
Celestia wrote:I like the current system.

What if you are drowning or falling (for example, exitprop from prop100), so pavo' s system is bad.
It won't bother drowning or falling bro.
Drowning: Without being frozen, you keep losing hp and die. Plus, with your hp keep decreasing while in water, how can you teleport with your system?

Falling: You are falling = keep moving. So according to your system, you can't teleport until you land.

Change the current TP system to yours will ruin the gameplay of old players.

You're correct, but what if players get teleported to a location when they leave any property. For example, anyone who leaves any property gets teleported to the spawn location.

Mate, the exitprop thing is only one example, if we change the TP system, many other problems will appear and create huge inconvenience to both Angel and players.
The current system has served us many years and everyone has get used to it. Changing it just for some not important reasons isn't acceptable for most people, not to mention that the new system has several disadvantages as well.

by **=SdS=KrlozZ...** Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:12 am

Celestia wrote:
K2. wrote:
Celestia wrote:
Pavonis wrote:
Celestia wrote:I like the current system.

What if you are drowning or falling (for example, exitprop from prop100), so pavo' s system is bad.
It won't bother drowning or falling bro.
Drowning: Without being frozen, you keep losing hp and die. Plus, with your hp keep decreasing while in water, how can you teleport with your system?

Falling: You are falling = keep moving. So according to your system, you can't teleport until you land.

Change the current TP system to yours will ruin the gameplay of old players.

You're correct, but what if players get teleported to a location when they leave any property. For example, anyone who leaves any property gets teleported to the spawn location.
Mate, the exitprop thing is only one example, if we change the TP system, many other problems will appear and create huge inconvenience to both Angel and players.
The current system has served us many years and everyone has get used to it. Changing it just for some not important reasons isn't acceptable for most people, not to mention that the new system has several disadvantages as well.

Pro celestia Surprised

by 薄霧. Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:47 am

Celestia wrote:
K2. wrote:
Celestia wrote:
Pavonis wrote:
Celestia wrote:I like the current system.

What if you are drowning or falling (for example, exitprop from prop100), so pavo' s system is bad.
It won't bother drowning or falling bro.
Drowning: Without being frozen, you keep losing hp and die. Plus, with your hp keep decreasing while in water, how can you teleport with your system?

Falling: You are falling = keep moving. So according to your system, you can't teleport until you land.

Change the current TP system to yours will ruin the gameplay of old players.

You're correct, but what if players get teleported to a location when they leave any property. For example, anyone who leaves any property gets teleported to the spawn location.
Mate, the exit prop thing is only one example, if we change the TP system, many other problems will appear and create huge inconvenience to both Angel and players.
The current system has served us many years and everyone has get used to it. Changing it just for some not important reasons isn't acceptable for most people, not to mention that the new system has several disadvantages as well.

Teleporting is actually a very big part of the VKs. I think that changing it to be fairer towards the teleporter is important. We can eliminate the problem of teleporting by falling by triggering the system that cancels the teleportation when a person moves his character by pressing the bind key for moving forward, backward, left or right instead of when the coordinates of a person changes. It can also be cancelled if the HP of a player changes, or when a person shoots, similar to the spawn protection.

by **Pavonis** Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:55 am

Celestia, let me tell you when someone falls of a building it's not his body moving lol so the system won't detect him as moving. Also, about drowning there is marcus who saves peoples from drowning. And the teleportation system that i suggested is literally the best one there could be for DMers. Trust me, it will be good and there is no disadvantage killers can kill them as they can't teleport also defenders can defend them as they can move and teleportation will also be canceled.

by **UmaR** Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:04 am

Pavonis wrote:Celestia, let me tell you when someone falls of a building it's not his body moving lol so the system won't detect him as moving. Also, about drowning there is marcus who saves peoples from drowning. And the teleportation system that i suggested is literally the best one there could be for DMers. Trust me, it will be good and there is no disadvantage killers can kill them as they can't teleport also defenders can defend them as they can move and teleportation will also be canceled.

falling means your z coordinate is decreasing

by **Pavonis** Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:08 am

UmaR wrote:
Pavonis wrote:Celestia, let me tell you when someone falls of a building it's not his body moving lol so the system won't detect him as moving. Also, about drowning there is marcus who saves peoples from drowning. And the teleportation system that i suggested is literally the best one there could be for DMers. Trust me, it will be good and there is no disadvantage killers can kill them as they can't teleport also defenders can defend them as they can move and teleportation will also be canceled.
falling means your z coordinate is decreasing

Yeah, I was confused about that. But for just falling does it really matters? :v

by 薄霧. Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:29 am

Pavonis wrote:
UmaR wrote:
Pavonis wrote:Celestia, let me tell you when someone falls of a building it's not his body moving lol so the system won't detect him as moving. Also, about drowning there is marcus who saves peoples from drowning. And the teleportation system that i suggested is literally the best one there could be for DMers. Trust me, it will be good and there is no disadvantage killers can kill them as they can't teleport also defenders can defend them as they can move and teleportation will also be canceled.
falling means your z coordinate is decreasing
Yeah, I was confused about that. But for just falling does it really matters? :v

Let's suppose you're exiting prop 100. You'll have to wait for a few minutes before you hit the water, die and respawn.

by **Pavonis** Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:33 am

K2. wrote:
Pavonis wrote:
UmaR wrote:
Pavonis wrote:Celestia, let me tell you when someone falls of a building it's not his body moving lol so the system won't detect him as moving. Also, about drowning there is marcus who saves peoples from drowning. And the teleportation system that i suggested is literally the best one there could be for DMers. Trust me, it will be good and there is no disadvantage killers can kill them as they can't teleport also defenders can defend them as they can move and teleportation will also be canceled.
falling means your z coordinate is decreasing
Yeah, I was confused about that. But for just falling does it really matters? :v

Let's suppose you're exiting prop 100. You'll have to wait for a few minutes before you hit the water, die and respawn.

You can type /respawn?

by 薄霧. Sun Apr 12, 2020 8:39 am

Pavonis wrote:
K2. wrote:
Pavonis wrote:
UmaR wrote:
Pavonis wrote:Celestia, let me tell you when someone falls of a building it's not his body moving lol so the system won't detect him as moving. Also, about drowning there is marcus who saves peoples from drowning. And the teleportation system that i suggested is literally the best one there could be for DMers. Trust me, it will be good and there is no disadvantage killers can kill them as they can't teleport also defenders can defend them as they can move and teleportation will also be canceled.
falling means your z coordinate is decreasing
Yeah, I was confused about that. But for just falling does it really matters? :v

Let's suppose you're exiting prop 100. You'll have to wait for a few minutes before you hit the water, die and respawn.

You can type /respawn?

Type respawn and unnecessarily wait 10 seconds?

by Sano^ Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:51 pm

Celestia wrote:I like the current system.

What if you are drowning or falling (for example, exitprop from prop100), so pavo' s system is bad.

i Agree With Celestia. -1

by Guest Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:18 pm

by **QaisAla** Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:32 pm

Celestia is 100% right.

I (in fact all of us) use /goto if we are falling or drowning by accident. -1

So the current system is decent and let's wait for Angel is he has a plan.

by 薄霧. Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:43 pm

QaisAla wrote:Celestia is 100% right.

I (in fact all of us) use /goto if we are falling or drowning by accident. -1

So the current system is decent and let's wait for Angel is he has a plan.

As I said, falling or drowning won't disable the teleportation if he uses the system mentioned above.

by **=SdS=Celestia** Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:57 pm

K2. wrote:
QaisAla wrote:Celestia is 100% right.

I (in fact all of us) use /goto if we are falling or drowning by accident. -1

So the current system is decent and let's wait for Angel is he has a plan.

As I said, falling or drowning won't disable the teleportation if he uses the system mentioned above.

As I said above, without frozen, you will die during the tele process while drowning.

by h Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:47 pm

-1 please dont

by **ЧК.** Sun Apr 12, 2020 5:27 pm

In my opinion, Angel should set a key that can disable teleport freeze so if someone wants to cancel it then they can, rather being frozen even if you enter a location or name incorrectly. And I'm not a scripter, but if it's possible then damage should work while frozen for teleport except water damage. This will to avoid death evades in some cases.

by **Thunder_B!rd** Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:13 pm

ЧК. wrote:In my opinion, Angel should set a key that can disable teleport freeze so if someone wants to cancel it then they can, rather being frozen even if you enter a location or name incorrectly. And I'm not a scripter, but if it's possible then damage should work while frozen for teleport except water damage. This will to avoid death evades in some cases.

water damage should work too, what if Flake(fast typist) jumps in water with 5 hp and type /gotoloc bf
ez evade :]

by 薄霧. Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:28 am

ЧК. wrote:In my opinion, Angel should set a key that can disable teleport freeze so if someone wants to cancel it then they can, rather being frozen even if you enter a location or name incorrectly. And I'm not a scripter, but if it's possible then damage should work while frozen for teleport except water damage. This will to avoid death evades in some cases.

This seems better than the two suggestions we've got, it has the advantages of both.

by **VK.Angel.OfDeath** Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:45 am

I won't remove the freeze but I might add some extra delays to commands for DM users or driveby users. I am considering a few things.

by **Pavonis** Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:52 am

VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:I won't remove the freeze but I might add some extra delays to commands for DM users or driveby users. I am considering a few things.

Then you might make it like, "You just got hit, you can't teleport for a certain amount of time" .

by **VK.Angel.OfDeath** Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:04 am

Pavonis wrote:
VK.Angel.OfDeath wrote:I won't remove the freeze but I might add some extra delays to commands for DM users or driveby users. I am considering a few things.
Then you might make it like, "You just got hit, you can't teleport for a certain amount of time" .

No. In my ideal world I want everyone that is chicken and runs away from a fight to not be able to heal up or teleport and then return to fighting. That's why I want to experiment a little with this. At least for driveby users I'll definitely make something like this since they usually run away after their car blows up.

by **MeLoDy^** Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:55 am

Celestia wrote:
Pavonis wrote:
Celestia wrote:I like the current system.

What if you are drowning or falling (for example, exitprop from prop100), so pavo' s system is bad.
It won't bother drowning or falling bro.
Drowning: Without being frozen, you keep losing hp and die. Plus, with your hp keep decreasing while in water, how can you teleport with your system?

Falling: You are falling = keep moving. So according to your system, you can't teleport until you land.

Change the current TP system to yours will ruin the gameplay of VKs old players.

I am 100% agreed with Celestia. It would be good for DMers, for sure like Pavonis is a fighter. But what about for those people whom don't like fighting / Dming or defending from others? Like if you were robbing and you're worried that if you died once, you'll lose all your robbing progress and if by mistakenly a player jumped into a water from a bike with Pavonis's suggesting system, if he would not froze in the water he will die and happenly lose his all the progression. And from my experiences and feelings, I would not go with this suggestion. If it would happen, mine and other's minigame player's gameplay will be ruin. -1

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