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Post by DexterMorgan2 Sat May 19, 2018 8:14 pm

Your in-game name: DexterMorgan

Admin who banned you: Shadow.JacK^
Date and time of banning: 19.5.2018, afternoon GMT
Reason given by the admin for the ban: Wall glitching

Your defence please: I kindly request that I be unbanned asap as my ban is based 100% on false pretenses. So much so that I don't know where to begin with. First of all, I was banned for wall glitching when the 'proof' video does not show that. I was using rpg from a distance and shooting towards that building as there were at least 3 players in the vicinity. Out of maybe 20 shots, only 1 could be deemed to be wall glitching but that's a natural thing due to bad aim. As the video shows, my rockets shuttered the window and i mostly aimed through there and not on any walls, but rockets have that effect, they shake the ground and inflict damage to people that are not directly hit but that's not wall glitching otherwise one could make the case that all rpg kills are glitching. At most, that one wall glitching shot could be blamed for a total of 20% health damage. But even if, for the sake of argument, suppose that  that video shows intentional and persistent wall glitching, I received no written warning and of course no kick as a warning, on my second 'offence' (which there wasn't one) as the rules dictate VERY clearly. I challenge the person who reported me or the one who banned me to find evidence to the contrary. Instead, I got a 12 days ban like I killed the mothers of all the admins of the servers, lol. It's ridiculous. Jokes aside, if i don't get immediate justice I will leave this server forever, as it is the third time now that I'm being punished unfairly and completely contrary to what the rules state.

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Post by DexterMorgan2 Sat May 19, 2018 8:55 pm

I've modified it so I expect a response.
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Post by Chuck Norris Sat May 19, 2018 9:02 pm

DexterMorgan2 wrote:I've modified it so I expect a response.

This is the format. Good luck with your application.

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[b]Date and time of banning:[/b]
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[b]Your defense please:[/b]
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[b]Any screenshots you took for your defense:[/b]
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Post by DexterMorgan2 Sat May 19, 2018 9:07 pm

I don't remember who else was there, because it was a random 1 minute thing in hours of gaming so I don't have witnesses or screenshots so I didn't include those lines. It's not like my request will be handled by a computer so I presumed it's fine to omit the N/A lines. In any case, my request depends on simple logic and on the facts already presented in the report.
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Post by Chuck Norris Sat May 19, 2018 9:11 pm

DexterMorgan2 wrote:I don't remember who else was there, because it was a random 1 minute thing in hours of gaming so I don't have witnesses or screenshots so I didn't include those lines. It's not like my request will be handled by a computer so I presumed it's fine to omit the N/A lines. In any case, my request depends on simple logic and on the facts already presented in the report.

I kinda agree that it is a little silly you have to be that close to the format, especially when you clearly put some though into your defense. However it does say in the unban appeal format topic that you need to provide the full format for whatever reason. N/A is fine as an answer though, which just make the whole format thing even more silly.
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Post by DexterMorgan2 Sun May 20, 2018 1:11 am

Thanks. In any case, I'm waiting for a response. Anyone?
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Post by VK.Angel.OfDeath Sun May 20, 2018 5:51 am

DexterMorgan2 wrote:Thanks. In any case, I'm waiting for a response. Anyone?
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The format looks fine now. Jack will probably look at it soon.

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Post by SJIsNotHere Sun May 20, 2018 7:21 am

DexterMorgan2 wrote:

[Out of maybe 20 shots, only 1 could be deemed to be wall glitching but that's a natural thing due to bad aim.
I can see (in the video) that you had plenty of time to aim carefully or should not aim on the solid object to get unfair advantage.You are just giving an excuse to get relief from this.

DexterMorgan2 wrote:
As the video shows, my rockets shuttered the window and i mostly aimed through there and not on any walls, but rockets have that effect, they shake the ground and inflict damage to people that are not directly hit but that's not wall glitching otherwise one could make the case that all rpg kills are glitching.
I know that you aimed mostly on non-solid objects (i.e.glasses),but the reporter has somehow managed to survive and cover himself through the walls and the distance from that breakable glass to
solid object (unbreakable glasses+ walls) was very long.It clearly makes sense that you had a time to aim carefully inside the building or should not aim on the solid object.But instead of this you directly killed him through explosion which penetrate a solid object.

Rules wrote:
Wall Glitching : Using a weapon to kill someone by the impact of that weapon that penetrates a solid object is also not allowed from any position.


DexterMorgan wrote:Instead, I got a 12 days ban like I killed the mothers of all the admins of the servers, lol. It's ridiculous. Jokes aside, if i don't get immediate justice I will leave this server forever, as it is the third time now that I'm being punished unfairly and completely contrary to what the rules state. [/b]
We ban players according to the specific reasons,we don't have the time to play with any command which is related for the maintenance of the server.
You have broken the server rules many times in past too :
https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t8950-accepted-player-report-dextermorgan?highlight=Dextermorgan
https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t8576-accepted-player-report-dextermorgan?highlight=Dextermorgan
https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t7966-accepted-player-report-dextermorgan-fix-evade?highlight=Dextermorgan
https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t6390-accepted-report-dextermorgan?highlight=Dextermorgan
https://vkserver.forumotion.com/t5544-warned-report-dextermorgan-death-evade?highlight=Dextermorgan

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Post by DexterMorgan2 Sun May 20, 2018 12:23 pm

I was on the top of a depot, which is a long distance from there and you know how aiming with RPG is less than perfect. There were also another 2 players in the area (on the lower floor of the building and outside) which I killed. So it's not like all my shots aimed at Geogeo. Plus I didn't remember which glasses can be shuttered and which cannot so maybe that one shot out of the many was intended to test that. As for your response on the second argument, you're saying that because in the many years in this server I have broken other rules (most of which do not exist anymore, btw), I will never be warned? So if I simply change a device and nickname I can get away with doing whatever I want, but now I'm on some blacklist and I don't deserve the privileges that all other players enjoy? One mistake in thousands of hours of gaming = 12 days ban?! It makes absolutely no sense and is AGAINST the rules itself. Show me proof that I have been verbally warned/kicked as a warning or where the rules state that if you have been banned for other reasons in the past you won't be warned and I will withdraw this request. But if you don't show me both of those things and go on to reject this request I will quit VKs forever. It's not even a threat; fewer and fewer people use this server these days and it's becoming less enjoyable, that's why I took a month-long break recently. It's a pity because this is a great server but if you treat your loyal and years-old players like that, you're accelerating its demise by yourself. I know many of you hate me, but going against the rules to punish me unjustly is clear breach of your duties and over the top.
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Post by SJIsNotHere Sun May 20, 2018 8:16 pm

DexterMorgan2 wrote:As for your response on the second argument, you're saying that because in the many years in this server I have broken other rules (most of which do not exist anymore, btw), I will never be warned?
I'm just pointing out your mistakes what you've done(didn't argue with you uselessly) because I don't really want anyone to let play unfairly or without following the server rules,in which it can lead to harm to the server players.Please,don't take server warns as joke,if you have received a server warn before your ban it means that you are requested to read the server rules and you are not allowed to break any server rule again or you have to play with following the server rules.

DexterMorgan2 wrote: I know many of you hate me, but going against the rules to punish me unjustly is clear breach of your duties and over the top.
I personally don't hate anyone,I do hate them when they do keep breaking the rules and then does not want to listen us or being dishonest against the rules towards us.Our intention is to keep the rulebreakers aways from this server.


Now,what I can do this is to reduce your ban duration to 5 days because you have clearly done wall glitching through explosion.
Next time be careful with this and never try to break any server rule again.

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Post by Chuck Norris Sun May 20, 2018 8:48 pm

Shadow.JacK^ wrote:
DexterMorgan2 wrote:As for your response on the second argument, you're saying that because in the many years in this server I have broken other rules (most of which do not exist anymore, btw), I will never be warned?
I'm just pointing out your mistakes what you've done(didn't argue with you uselessly) because I don't really want anyone to let play unfairly or without following the server rules,in which it can lead to harm to the server players.Please,don't take server warns as joke,if you have received a server warn before your ban it means that you are requested to read the server rules and you are not allowed to break any server rule again or you have to play with following the server rules.

DexterMorgan2 wrote: I know many of you hate me, but going against the rules to punish me unjustly is clear breach of your duties and over the top.
I personally don't hate anyone,I do hate them when they do keep breaking the rules and then does not want to listen us or being dishonest against the rules towards us.Our intention is to keep the rulebreakers aways from this server.


Now,what I can do this is to reduce your ban duration to 5 days because you have clearly done wall glitching through explosion.
Next time be careful with this and never try to break any server rule again.

Also the rule Jack banned you for is now removed. The management team agreed that the rule was kinda stupid and shouldn't be there. However since you were punished prior the rule being removed you still have to take the punishment. But hey, at least you helped to improve the rules a little.

In case you only read my reply: Jack reduced the ban to 5 days.
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