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Post by ????????? Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:32 pm

Your in-game name:[on]hunting
Rulebreaker (in-game name):kft.iceblood
Date and time of Rulebreaking:today
What did he do? Describe please:wall glitch with fire from closed-door glitch styled building

Players who witnessed the violation (in-game names): [km]dooreater or helathien

Any links to screenshots you took as evidence:
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Post by IceBlood Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:35 pm

Its a Propdoor, and i was using flamethrower, and it can pass through walls or doors, you can check it too.
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Post by h Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:42 pm

It was an event, I think its a exception for that....
btw we were actually supposed to kill him with WG cause there was no other way and it was event. But Ice did it when he said "over" so.....
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Post by ЧК. Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:46 pm

IceBlood wrote:Its a Propdoor, and i was using flamethrower, and it can pass through walls or doors, you can check it too.

It is still a solid and using a weapon’s impact through a solid is a rule break.

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Post by Chuck Norris Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:51 pm

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IceBlood wrote:Its a Propdoor, and i was using flamethrower, and it can pass through walls or doors, you can check it too.

It is still a solid and using a weapon’s impact through a solid is a rule break.

We've been over this before. Property doors does not count. You can get to the place when the property door is down without the use of any commands. Even if players put the doors up, it doesn't change the fact that they accessed the place without the use of any commands or by penetrating any walls.

This report should be denied.

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Post by ЧК. Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:00 pm

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IceBlood wrote:Its a Propdoor, and i was using flamethrower, and it can pass through walls or doors, you can check it too.

It is still a solid and using a weapon’s impact through a solid is a rule break.

We've been over this before. Property doors does not count. You can get to the place when the property door is down without the use of any commands. Even if players put the doors up, it doesn't change the fact that they accessed the place without the use of any commands or by penetrating any walls.

This report should be denied.


This exception should be mentioned in rules specifically. As the rules say, IceBlood cannot go through the door without commands because to open the door you are required to use property object move command.

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Post by Chuck Norris Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:54 pm

ЧК. wrote:
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IceBlood wrote:Its a Propdoor, and i was using flamethrower, and it can pass through walls or doors, you can check it too.

It is still a solid and using a weapon’s impact through a solid is a rule break.

We've been over this before. Property doors does not count. You can get to the place when the property door is down without the use of any commands. Even if players put the doors up, it doesn't change the fact that they accessed the place without the use of any commands or by penetrating any walls.

This report should be denied.


This exception should be mentioned in rules specifically. As the rules say, IceBlood cannot go through the door without commands because to open the door you are required to use property object move command.

It can be cleared up, but it's not an exception. The door is down by default thus he doesn't have to penetrate a wall to get there or use necessarily use commands to get there.
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Post by ????????? Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:20 pm

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IceBlood wrote:Its a Propdoor, and i was using flamethrower, and it can pass through walls or doors, you can check it too.

It is still a solid and using a weapon’s impact through a solid is a rule break.

We've been over this before. Property doors does not count. You can get to the place when the property door is down without the use of any commands. Even if players put the doors up, it doesn't change the fact that they accessed the place without the use of any commands or by penetrating any walls.

This report should be denied.


This exception should be mentioned in rules specifically. As the rules say, IceBlood cannot go through the door without commands because to open the door you are required to use property object move command.

It can be cleared up, but it's not an exception. The door is down by default thus he doesn't have to penetrate a wall to get there or use necessarily use commands to get there.

it's same case as me with max lol, that means i didn't deserve that 3 days ban before?
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Post by IceBlood Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:15 pm

Dude i did not used any hack, i was playing my normal game and what about that molos which hunting you used to throw in and someome before me did that glitch after that i did it back to him. You guys can come in game and  that this thing passes through this solid door.
IF its still a wrong thing, i am sorry and wont do this act again.
And i own this Prop i can in and add a door.
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Post by SparkeR Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:23 pm

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Post by IceBlood Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:33 pm

And i did not even know that the flame is passing through.
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Post by ЧК. Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:00 pm

Chuck Norris wrote:
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IceBlood wrote:Its a Propdoor, and i was using flamethrower, and it can pass through walls or doors, you can check it too.

It is still a solid and using a weapon’s impact through a solid is a rule break.

We've been over this before. Property doors does not count. You can get to the place when the property door is down without the use of any commands. Even if players put the doors up, it doesn't change the fact that they accessed the place without the use of any commands or by penetrating any walls.

This report should be denied.


This exception should be mentioned in rules specifically. As the rules say, IceBlood cannot go through the door without commands because to open the door you are required to use property object move command.

It can be cleared up, but it's not an exception. The door is down by default thus he doesn't have to penetrate a wall to get there or use necessarily use commands to get there.

How did he make the door open by default? It was done by a command. Yes, he may have not used the command at that time, but the rule doesn’t say that you have to use the command the same time you get the kill. Custom props cause confusion in this rule so I suggest we first discuss this case if it counts as wallglitch according to the definition and then we make some additions to clear the confusions surrounding custom props.

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Post by IceBlood Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:02 pm

Sure. Do discuss,but lemme clear you guys one thing, hunting did this first(passing flame from door)then i did it back.
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Post by ????????? Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:37 pm

IceBlood wrote:Sure. Do discuss,but lemme clear you guys one thing, hunting did this first(passing flame from door)then i did it back.

firstly it was [KM]Helathien and secondly he didn't kill anyone

i think it's iceblood's first time, he should be warned not to do this in future.
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Post by h Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:40 pm

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IceBlood wrote:Sure. Do discuss,but lemme clear you guys one thing, hunting did this first(passing flame from door)then i did it back.

firstly it was [KM]Helathien and secondly he didn't kill anyone

i think it's iceblood's first time, he should be warned not to do this in future.

I did not kill anyone yes. So this isnt wall glitch. 2nd of all the corridor is quite small so when flame is thrown here, it gets of the roof rather then on the floor.
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Post by IceBlood Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:49 pm

I have already said, i wont do it again.
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Post by ЧК. Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:55 pm

IceBlood wrote:I have already said, i wont do it again.

You don’t have to worry, the max punishment you can get if the report is accepted is a warn. Now let me discuss with Angel and other admins.

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Post by IceBlood Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:59 pm

Okay :[
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Post by ЧК. Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:01 pm

After confirmation from Flake, this does count as a wallglitch according to the current rules because the command /proploc creates these objects and therefore command is used to access that location. Report will be accepted, but we’ll discuss in management to be more clear regarding wallglitching within custom props.

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Post by Chuck Norris Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:26 pm

This property is in world 1! The doors are down by default when the server loads, I am the scripter believe me. They don't come up when you do "proploc". You can walk into the place without a penetrating a wall or using a command thus:

"from a place that isn't accesible without the use of any commands" can't hold since the place can be accessible without the use of any commands when the door is down.

Here is the update. Report denied.

Note: Property doors in world 1 can be used to create the illusion that this rule is being broken but "from a place that isn't accesible without the use of any commands" very clearly says that the place has to not be accessibly without of the use of any commands, all the time. Since property doors are open by default it's very possible to access those places without having to use a command.
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